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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5276660" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>Ok, let's take a look at what people have said in the thread thus far (and my apologies in advance if I misread anyone's opinion!)</p><p> </p><p>Here are the people who have posted in this thread objecting to Save or Die, and specifically indicated it is because they prefer slower deaths that they feel have more drama, or just object to death being tied to one roll or being too easy: </p><p>Festivus, Fifth Element, radmod, ElMahdi, parvatiquinta, malraux, SilvercatMoonpaw2, ProfessorCirno, Jan van Leyden, Henry, Hussar, wedgeski</p><p> </p><p>Those who sorta object to Save or Die, still indicating a preferance for slower, less random deaths: </p><p>JeffB, StreamOfTheSky, Aberzanzorax, Doug McCrae</p><p> </p><p>Here are others who just objected to Save or Death without offering their views on death in general: </p><p>messy, A Passing Maniac, Eric Anondson, Holy Bovine, Mallus, vagabundo</p><p> </p><p>So. Almost everyone who has been actively involved in this discussion, and indicated a preference for no Save or Dies, has also indicated they are fine with other forms of Death. Only a few people - most of which have only briefly commented - have failed to specifically state that. <strong>No one</strong> has actually said they aren't a fan of death at all.</p><p> </p><p>So what claimaints, precisely, are you referring to? You mention that I should call you on it if you change your stance in a later post - are you saying someone has done that here? </p><p> </p><p>I'm genuinely curious, now. Which of the people in the thread - who largely seem to be offering the opposite opinion - have previously indicated to you that they prefer avoiding death in their games entirely? </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>You really don't see the value judgement he's lobbying in that and later posts? His reference to people objecting to death because they see it as "losing" doesn't seem like a negative portrayal? His talk about how heavy-RP games have "heroic, dramatic deaths" doesn't clearly show his preference?</p><p> </p><p>If you honestly are going to deny the bias in his statement, and claim that I made my portrayal of it up out of nothing - despite using the exact same language he did - then I really don't know what to say.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5276660, member: 61155"] Ok, let's take a look at what people have said in the thread thus far (and my apologies in advance if I misread anyone's opinion!) Here are the people who have posted in this thread objecting to Save or Die, and specifically indicated it is because they prefer slower deaths that they feel have more drama, or just object to death being tied to one roll or being too easy: Festivus, Fifth Element, radmod, ElMahdi, parvatiquinta, malraux, SilvercatMoonpaw2, ProfessorCirno, Jan van Leyden, Henry, Hussar, wedgeski Those who sorta object to Save or Die, still indicating a preferance for slower, less random deaths: JeffB, StreamOfTheSky, Aberzanzorax, Doug McCrae Here are others who just objected to Save or Death without offering their views on death in general: messy, A Passing Maniac, Eric Anondson, Holy Bovine, Mallus, vagabundo So. Almost everyone who has been actively involved in this discussion, and indicated a preference for no Save or Dies, has also indicated they are fine with other forms of Death. Only a few people - most of which have only briefly commented - have failed to specifically state that. [B]No one[/B] has actually said they aren't a fan of death at all. So what claimaints, precisely, are you referring to? You mention that I should call you on it if you change your stance in a later post - are you saying someone has done that here? I'm genuinely curious, now. Which of the people in the thread - who largely seem to be offering the opposite opinion - have previously indicated to you that they prefer avoiding death in their games entirely? You really don't see the value judgement he's lobbying in that and later posts? His reference to people objecting to death because they see it as "losing" doesn't seem like a negative portrayal? His talk about how heavy-RP games have "heroic, dramatic deaths" doesn't clearly show his preference? If you honestly are going to deny the bias in his statement, and claim that I made my portrayal of it up out of nothing - despite using the exact same language he did - then I really don't know what to say. [/QUOTE]
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