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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 5277889" data-attributes="member: 114"><p>See, I think that a slavish adherence to "rules" without applying common sense entirely opens up the DM to blame. Would said DM force someone to make a save if they saw the Bodak from behind and wasn't trying to avert their gaze? I sincerely hope not. The whole point of the rogue sneaking is that he is keeping - ta-dah - out of view of the creatures he is sneaking up on. The very fact that he successfully snuck demonstrates ipso facto that the bodak was not looking at him.</p><p></p><p>That isn't modifying the rules to suit the circumstances, it is using the tiniest modicum of common sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>However, as Abraxas reminds me, for people who like this sort of thing that's fine. Indeed, 4e seems to me to be well targetted for that approach so I suppose it may be more widespread than I would have suspected!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 5277889, member: 114"] See, I think that a slavish adherence to "rules" without applying common sense entirely opens up the DM to blame. Would said DM force someone to make a save if they saw the Bodak from behind and wasn't trying to avert their gaze? I sincerely hope not. The whole point of the rogue sneaking is that he is keeping - ta-dah - out of view of the creatures he is sneaking up on. The very fact that he successfully snuck demonstrates ipso facto that the bodak was not looking at him. That isn't modifying the rules to suit the circumstances, it is using the tiniest modicum of common sense. However, as Abraxas reminds me, for people who like this sort of thing that's fine. Indeed, 4e seems to me to be well targetted for that approach so I suppose it may be more widespread than I would have suspected! [/QUOTE]
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