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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5278472" data-attributes="member: 18280">That's a very questionable statement, IMHO.  The AD&D 1e power curve is flatter, so that there is less of a difference between what can challenge a character party from level to level.  With the steep curve of 3e, it isn't enough to "offer a more targeted estimate of the challenge it offers to a basic party of 4" to exceed the usefulness of the 1e ML system.In the final analysis, my experience is that CR is no better than ML.  This isn't a fault of the CR System.  It is a fault of the 3e power curve.Thanks.I'd XP you, but I gotta spread it around first.Again, RC would, in fact, make sure that the campaign milieu contained appropriate "footprints" for both encounters.Nor does RC believe that it is necessary (or even advisable) for a party to have a guarantee of advance warning of Save or Die effects.  RC merely believes that the possibility of warning must be present, should the PCs choose to avail themselves of it.  Not only in the case of SoD encounters, but in the case of just about any encounter.No matter what encounter you have, I think that the players should be able to look back at what came before (with 20/20 hindsight) and say, "Yeah, we coulda/shoulda seen that coming."  The degree to which this is true increases in proportion to the "footprint" of the creature(s) encountered. And expecting that level of common sense, IMHO, doesn't put too great a burden on the GM.....Although it should, perhaps, be made explicit in the GM's advice.RC</blockquote>

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