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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5281809" data-attributes="member: 957">Is GURPS fantasy &quot;D&amp;D&quot; to you?&nbsp; Is HERO?&nbsp; Is Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay?It is all &quot;fantasy roleplay&quot; to me.&nbsp; But there are a lot of &quot;but&quot;s to keep in mind.If WHFRP is &quot;D&amp;D&quot; to you, then, imo, you are not using the label &quot;D&amp;D&quot; correctly.&nbsp; Not that there is a big problem here, Xerox doesn't mean &quot;photocopy&quot; but people still get the point.&nbsp; But it is better to speak clearly, and in the case I do think the distinctions impact the conversation.&quot;D&amp;D&quot; is nothing but a brand name.&nbsp; Every version of D&amp;D, so far, has also been &quot;fantasy roleplay&quot;.&nbsp; But the games are decidedly different from one to another, within the brand.&nbsp; If you see Moldvay and 3E as under the same &quot;all D&amp;D&quot; umbrella, but HERO and WHFRP are not just because they lack the D&amp;D brand label, then I'm forced to conclude this is not a very thoughtful or useful assessment.Whereas if you see all &quot;fantasy roleplay&quot; as &quot;all D&amp;D&quot;, I'm still stuck not finding that useful.&nbsp; You can't talk to a wine collector and tell them that &quot;wine is wine&quot; and expect them to go on to look to your opinions as meaningful with regard to the merits of their collection.&nbsp; Different versions of fantasy roleplay bearing the name &quot;D&amp;D&quot; are hugely different in the details.&nbsp; Having a preference for one over another is all simple taste, and it is all good.&nbsp; But calling them all the same is odd.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5281809, member: 957"] Is GURPS fantasy "D&D" to you? Is HERO? Is Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay? It is all "fantasy roleplay" to me. But there are a lot of "but"s to keep in mind. If WHFRP is "D&D" to you, then, imo, you are not using the label "D&D" correctly. Not that there is a big problem here, Xerox doesn't mean "photocopy" but people still get the point. But it is better to speak clearly, and in the case I do think the distinctions impact the conversation. "D&D" is nothing but a brand name. Every version of D&D, so far, has also been "fantasy roleplay". But the games are decidedly different from one to another, within the brand. If you see Moldvay and 3E as under the same "all D&D" umbrella, but HERO and WHFRP are not just because they lack the D&D brand label, then I'm forced to conclude this is not a very thoughtful or useful assessment. Whereas if you see all "fantasy roleplay" as "all D&D", I'm still stuck not finding that useful. You can't talk to a wine collector and tell them that "wine is wine" and expect them to go on to look to your opinions as meaningful with regard to the merits of their collection. Different versions of fantasy roleplay bearing the name "D&D" are hugely different in the details. Having a preference for one over another is all simple taste, and it is all good. But calling them all the same is odd. [/QUOTE]

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