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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5281818" data-attributes="member: 957">It is certainly very possible for a party of four characters to bumble into a SoD encounter.  But the number of characters in my parties has varied between four and six (briefly and rarely eight).  In the regular course of events I would expect the avg number of people initially exposed to the effect is slightly over one.  You have gone from taking issue with expectations of mitigating factors to now requiring as a unavoidable truth that all party members will be caught flat footed (not the mechanical term here) by a SoD threat in the first round.As someone who is all about the story, I'm again struck by just how wildly different the game you play is to mine.  The narrative driven events are all controlling in my games.  The mechanics are absolute slaves to the narrative.  The idea that a basilisk encounter is required because it is on a random encounter table is just plain wrong to me.  I certainly might use a random table to determine a piece of the narrative in an organic manner, if you will.  But the results of that table work for me, not the other way around.And, in the same manner, the characters rolling their saves in the first round is not some predetermined mechanical known.  It is the result of the narrative of events leading up to the encounter.  There have probably been more events in which the party actually got the drop on a SoD threat than there have been three pr more saves in round one.  Not that it can't happen.  It certainly CAN.  But the presumption is way out of line.  It completely removes the "game" from the roleplay".The math should be invisible as possible.  When you start messing with the story over "the math" you defeat the purpose.  (Obviously, imo)</blockquote>

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