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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5302313" data-attributes="member: 18280">A couple more things.Careful there.  Just about anything's presence is "detectable by a party" in a world in which divination magic exists. I think that (1) you underestimate the laziness of creatures in general, and (2) you underestimate how long it takes, as well as how much effort is required, to reduce a stone statue to unidentifiable rubble.  The very industrious medusa in our example doesn't have to have recently petrified anyone -- she is still working on the statues from months ago.Who said anything about giant neon signs except you?  That is an obvious straw man.The medusa who has a maedar consort obviously has the edge up on our industrious medusa.  Yet, even so, the maedar is unlikely to eat everything that ever happens to get within close proximity of the medusa.  Does the maeder eat vermin, for example?  Rats?Does he eat the bones, the pelt?Well, the medusa with a maedar consort may indeed use such a middens....Not "DEEPER into her lair" but some reasonable distance from it, so that the stench of rotting remains doesn't bother her.  Our industrious medusa, however, is either going to be dragging heavy stone statues, or at the very least breaking them down into smaller chunks on-site.  This is going to require more than one hammer, even over a relatively small span of years, because handles will break (if nothing else).The middens is also not likely to be a hole dug by the medusa.  Digging holes, especially in stone, is hard work after all.It is also rather curious that, one one hand, we cannot use the medusa because it is party insta-death, and on the other hand the medusa is cringing in hiding from that very same party, "their biggest, and strongest to come and kill me".  Not wrongbadfun, but very inconsistent.Can a medusa with a maedar consort subsist simply by converting stone tunnels to flesh, then eating the flesh, bothering nothing?  That might be an interesting encounter for the PCs.  The medusa would have no reason to use her gaze attack on anyone.  Perhaps they could even grill a stone steak and break out the ale.  If the PCs agreed to continue to supply ale, the medusa might even make them favoured guests.Most medusas, though, seem to be played as though they enjoy the suffering of others.  They turn people to stone from spite or malice.  They enjoy it.  Such a creature is simply not going to hide in a hole eating cave tunnel steaks.  It needs the means to lure victims to its grasp.Or, in the case of the classical Medusa, she is hidden away from the world, and wrathful toward those who seek her out.It would be interesting to play in a dungeon like Singapore's parks, where monsters get beaten with a cane for littering.  I imagine that the PCs would get beaten fairly early in their explorations (assuming leaving dead bodies around is considered littering), and they might have the chance to ask the guards about what repeat offenders are in the area!  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />Hussar, we all post here, and as we do so, people are able to get an idea of what we are like as players and DMs.  We have a "footprint" here just as monsters do in the campaign milieu.  You have made statements in the past about how you think others run games, based on your experience and their statements.  That's human nature.Maybe I missed the post where someone said you were a hack at the table, but I don't think it exists.  I don't see anyone else taking things personally instead of trying to actually discuss.That doesn't mean that we aren't going to or shouldn't examine your arguments, though.  Nor should it mean that you won't or shouldn't examine ours.RC</blockquote>

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