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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5303919" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Do you?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess not. This is not a basic assumption I am making.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Pursuit of knowledge</em></strong> is in the hands of the players. Very, very often <strong><em>in a well-run game </em></strong>that pursuit <em><strong>has the potential </strong></em>to bear fruit.</p><p></p><p>I made no claim as to how many games out there are what I would consider "well-run". IME, though (two countried, several American states), I would say that the above is true for the majority of games I have been involved in.</p><p></p><p>I don't think much of the games where it has not been true.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I guess you don't understand what I am saying.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I suggest that you examine the 1e DMG section on hiring spies, as well as the 1e DMG section on hiring sages. What you are asking for is an "exacting" question in the sage material. It might take a long time to gain the information sought, and it might cost a lot of gold, but it is at least potentially do-able.</p><p></p><p>A mage who leads combat with <em>finger of death </em>will certainly be known to do so. Indeed, that mage probably wants that to be known, so as to convince others not to attack him. A mage who wants to avoid others knowing that he has a SoD spell is unlikely to use it in the first round of combat -- he will reserve it for when things get dire.</p><p></p><p>Certainly, powerful spellcasters will take pains to keep others from knowing what their exact abilities are. Other powerful spellcasters will take pains to know. When the PCs start asking around about Mordenkainen's spellbook, they are likely to attract the attention of both.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Or you could just cast low-level divination spells over a few game-days time, going down the spell list, and ask if your target wizard has each one. It won't help you with newly-invented spells, but it will certainly allow you to check on any specific SoD spells you are concerned about.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Whyever not?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you do, you are certainly not responding to it, and your statements of what I mean are malicious fabrications. Probabably better to assume that you do not, eh? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nice try to tell me what I think, and have the last word about what I think, too! Brazen, sir, and I would XP you for the sheer brass if I could!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5303919, member: 18280"] Do you? I guess not. This is not a basic assumption I am making. [B][I]Pursuit of knowledge[/I][/B] is in the hands of the players. Very, very often [B][I]in a well-run game [/I][/B]that pursuit [I][B]has the potential [/B][/I]to bear fruit. I made no claim as to how many games out there are what I would consider "well-run". IME, though (two countried, several American states), I would say that the above is true for the majority of games I have been involved in. I don't think much of the games where it has not been true. Again, I guess you don't understand what I am saying. I suggest that you examine the 1e DMG section on hiring spies, as well as the 1e DMG section on hiring sages. What you are asking for is an "exacting" question in the sage material. It might take a long time to gain the information sought, and it might cost a lot of gold, but it is at least potentially do-able. A mage who leads combat with [I]finger of death [/I]will certainly be known to do so. Indeed, that mage probably wants that to be known, so as to convince others not to attack him. A mage who wants to avoid others knowing that he has a SoD spell is unlikely to use it in the first round of combat -- he will reserve it for when things get dire. Certainly, powerful spellcasters will take pains to keep others from knowing what their exact abilities are. Other powerful spellcasters will take pains to know. When the PCs start asking around about Mordenkainen's spellbook, they are likely to attract the attention of both. EDIT: Or you could just cast low-level divination spells over a few game-days time, going down the spell list, and ask if your target wizard has each one. It won't help you with newly-invented spells, but it will certainly allow you to check on any specific SoD spells you are concerned about. Whyever not? If you do, you are certainly not responding to it, and your statements of what I mean are malicious fabrications. Probabably better to assume that you do not, eh? ;) RC EDIT: Nice try to tell me what I think, and have the last word about what I think, too! Brazen, sir, and I would XP you for the sheer brass if I could! [/QUOTE]
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