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<blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 5305255" data-attributes="member: 23977">Dunno... All I'm saying is that it just seems kind of natural to me that a player (especially a frustrated player) would look at his 18 INT and wonder why it has no relevance towards helping Presto the Perspicacious escape the DM's &quot;Ye Olde Merry Riddle Trappe&quot; that's about to fry him...From that the outgrowth of secondary skills / proficiencies and then skills feats and powers again seems only natural to me.I have no real issue if you're cool with a game of match wits with the DM... If everyone playing is on the same page- go for it...Just seems like two separate games to me, as well as frustrating and kind of jarring- particularly&nbsp; if you're dealing with the Egotistical kind of DM that has determined the only right way out of the trap/challenge is his way no matter whether another option would actually work...It also seems to me that in a game like that, when in a battle with a mighty dragon it should be equally appropriate for Joe the Body Builder playing a character with 4 strength to stand up, round-house kick the DM in the teeth 80's action movie style,&nbsp; then declare &quot;Boo-Ya!!! Dragon defeated! Player skillz beotch!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scribble, post: 5305255, member: 23977"] Dunno... All I'm saying is that it just seems kind of natural to me that a player (especially a frustrated player) would look at his 18 INT and wonder why it has no relevance towards helping Presto the Perspicacious escape the DM's "Ye Olde Merry Riddle Trappe" that's about to fry him... From that the outgrowth of secondary skills / proficiencies and then skills feats and powers again seems only natural to me. I have no real issue if you're cool with a game of match wits with the DM... If everyone playing is on the same page- go for it... Just seems like two separate games to me, as well as frustrating and kind of jarring- particularly if you're dealing with the Egotistical kind of DM that has determined the only right way out of the trap/challenge is his way no matter whether another option would actually work... It also seems to me that in a game like that, when in a battle with a mighty dragon it should be equally appropriate for Joe the Body Builder playing a character with 4 strength to stand up, round-house kick the DM in the teeth 80's action movie style, then declare "Boo-Ya!!! Dragon defeated! Player skillz beotch!" [/QUOTE]

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