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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RedShirtNo5.1" data-source="post: 5305656" data-attributes="member: 80037">MrMyth has the correct rules interpretation. All of the situations which permit an opponent to avoid a saving throw rely on the creature with the gaze attack having concealment from the opponent, e.g., the creature is invisible, the opponent closes his eyes or avoids looking at the creature, there is fog. Nothing indicates that a saving throw can be avoided by the opponent having concealment from the creature. In fact, the opposite is the case - the rules point out that gaze attacks can affect ethereal creatures and creatures with darkvision, i.e., situations where the opponent can see the creature but the creature may not be able to see the opponent.  The ethereal assassin who RC sees with detect invisibility but MM cannot must make a saving throw against MM's gaze attack.</blockquote>