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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5311295" data-attributes="member: 61155">Er... no? The main reason I continued this line was that you had declared certain things to be by the RAW, when they were not. I don't think this was about getting tired of clarifying - I had provided direct quotes from the rules that specifically contradicted the claims you were making. I took your response to mean that you were conceding that point.  If that isn't the case... well, I'll lay out once more the main points of the argument if you want to respond to them:  Claim: If you are hidden, it means the opponent is most likely looking in another direction.  Rebuttal: No, since if this was true, you could automatically spot a hidden figure by declaring that you are looking at the shadows in which they are hiding - which is not the case. Instead, even if you look at their hiding spot, you make a Spot check opposed by their Hide check, and if you fail, you do not see them unless you in some fashion remove or negate their concealment or cover.   Claim: A gaze attack requires actively meeting the gaze of the creature, not simply viewing its eyes.  Rebuttal: No, a gaze attack simply requires viewing its eyes, based on the opening line of the gaze attack entry in the monster manual, "A gaze attack takes effect when opponents look at the creature's eyes."</blockquote>