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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5311311" data-attributes="member: 61155">And this is the part where things are strange to me. Earlier you talk about wanting things to have logical consistency, and that a DM shouldn't be softballing SoD encounters. Now you seem to be saying the opposite - that a DM is at fault if he has a SoD monster and allows it to affect a PC. That when deciding how events happen, he should choose the scenario which is least harmful to the PCs, rather than basing it on what seems logical in the scenario itself.  In this case, a PC looks into a room in which there is a Bodak, and one which it is likely will have its features visible to them.  To confirm, do you feel the appropriate thing to do in this instance would be for the DM to decide that the Bodak happened to be looking away at that very moment, when there was no logical reason for it to do so?   Because the only element that made this a bad situation was the SoD itself. A rogue sneaks up to a cabin and looks inside. A bodak is in the room, set there to guard the place. It was in a position where its features are visible to the rogue. The DM could arbitrarily decide it is looking away, but there is no reason for that to be the case. Thus, the rogue can see its features, and upon looking at its evil eyes, the rogue dies.  Let's switch the Bodak with someone else, and run this scenario again.  A rogue sneaks up to a cabin and looks inside. Jack the Fighter is in the room, set there to guard the place. He is in a position where his features are visible to the rogue. The DM could arbitrarily decide he is looking away, but there is no reason for that to be the case. Thus, the rogue can see his features, and identify who he is, and return with that information for his friends.  The only part that is a problem is the rogue dying. Nothing else about either above scenario seems unreasonable. Saying that it is possible to spy upon someone from hiding, and see their features, seems likely in any number of circumstances. Declaring that the DM should have the Bodak looking away, not because it makes sense, but because doing otherwise is 'screwing the PCs' seems to be saying that the default is for a DM to use SoD monsters, but them softball them as much as possible.</blockquote>

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