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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BJP" data-source="post: 2190430" data-attributes="member: 28849">Hmm, some interesting ideas already. I like the 'save or -1d10' idea. Keeps some randomness, and gets rid of some of the quirks I had with the 1 / 0 / -1 approach. The stuff on Monte Cooks blog is interesting to. I quite the like stun / paralysis / dying / dead progression, but I'm not so sure about the implementation. If you set it up like his Holy Word example, then powerful spells essentially become only a slight hinderance to characters - it almost removes too much risk. How about a series of sequential saves? First successful save bails out of the above chain - so you've got to miss 4 successive saves to die. Keeps some randomness in, and keeps save or die a genuine threat, but higher level characters still possess some extra resistance to really serious damage. Jim.</blockquote>