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<blockquote data-quote="clark411" data-source="post: 702471" data-attributes="member: 4768"><p>They do not boost my enjoyment of the game.</p><p></p><p>That said, I can very easily see how a wizard or sorc needs disintegration, hold monster (+cdg's usually equate to save or die), and the other "you're out of the fight instantly" spells to survive.. with their HD, given an average rolling history a wizard will have about 24 hp give or take at level 10... for that character, being hit by pretty much anything Large or better will equate to "Your opponent attacks and you die." Being mauled / swallowed / etc on round one is just as enjoyable as rolling a 4 on a save vs a Destruction spell.</p><p></p><p>So I can see how they are somewhat of a necessity even if they aren't fun. Being on the recieving end, no matter how I can justify the utility or unavoidable necessity of it, isn't joyful for me. Hopefully they've come up with some work-arounds for this in 3.5 if they are altering the spells... if not I feel bad for the finger-wigglers in my group.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="clark411, post: 702471, member: 4768"] They do not boost my enjoyment of the game. That said, I can very easily see how a wizard or sorc needs disintegration, hold monster (+cdg's usually equate to save or die), and the other "you're out of the fight instantly" spells to survive.. with their HD, given an average rolling history a wizard will have about 24 hp give or take at level 10... for that character, being hit by pretty much anything Large or better will equate to "Your opponent attacks and you die." Being mauled / swallowed / etc on round one is just as enjoyable as rolling a 4 on a save vs a Destruction spell. So I can see how they are somewhat of a necessity even if they aren't fun. Being on the recieving end, no matter how I can justify the utility or unavoidable necessity of it, isn't joyful for me. Hopefully they've come up with some work-arounds for this in 3.5 if they are altering the spells... if not I feel bad for the finger-wigglers in my group. [/QUOTE]
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