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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sylrae" data-source="post: 4843888" data-attributes="member: 48520">I came up with a fix for Saves and Multiclassing. It's based on the regular system for determining saves (specifically the bad save), but doesnt allow the exploit of the level 1 +2 bump.Regular System:1/3*level = Bad Saves1/2*level+2 = Good Saves5/12*level+1 = Medium SavesI made medium saves as directly halfway between the two, for use in the regular system.this gives totals of 6.67, 9.33, and 12.00 at level 20.My New System - based on the old bad-save total:1/3*level = Bad Saves2/3*level = Good Saves1/2*level = Medium SavesAgain, medium is directly between the two.this gives totals of 6.67, 10, and 13.33 at level 20.I also have 2 other tweaks in case someone doesnt like the increase from 12.00 to 13.33 for good saves.Based on the old good-save total:3/10*level = Bad Saves6/10*level = Good Saves9/20*level = Medium Savesthis gives totals of 6.00, 9.00, and 12.00 at 20and finallyBased on the old good AND bad save totals:1/3*level = Bad Saves6/10*level = Good Saves7/15*level = Medium Savesthis gives totals of 6.67, 9.33, and 12.00 at 20. As you can see, this gives the most similar results you'll get to the original system, though I prefer the cleaner fractions of 1/3, 1/2, and 2/3.Feel free to comment or use any of these three alternate systems.</blockquote>