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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1230594" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>These are not my powergaming house rules. Other posters here have stated that these are the rules. Guess I'll just have to quote them.</p><p></p><p>3.5 PHB page 87</p><p></p><p>"A player simply chooses for his or her character. Each character gets a feat upon creation. ... he or she gains another feat ..."</p><p></p><p>Note the words <strong>gets</strong> and <strong>gains</strong>.</p><p></p><p>"Some feats have prerequisites. Your character must have the indicated ability score, class feature, feat, skill, base attack bonus or other quality designated in order to select or use that feat."</p><p></p><p>Note the word <strong>select</strong>.</p><p></p><p>You GET feats at given levels. You can only SELECT feats if you meet the prerequisites. The rules are explicit.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And, Wizards (not mages, there are no mages in the 3E or 3.5 version core rules) DO get their spells immediately upon gaining a level.</p><p></p><p>3.5 PHB page 57</p><p></p><p>"At each new level, she gains two new spells ... At this point, she can add two new spells of (various combos listed) ..."</p><p></p><p>Note the phrases <strong>At each new level</strong>, <strong>gains two new spells</strong> and <strong>she can add</strong>.</p><p></p><p>This is clear. It would be a house rule that casters would have to wait to get their level gained spells while out in the wilderness.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ditto for skills. You get the skills when you go up the level. You can only purchased trained skills if you go train. Although the book does not explicitly state it, you must train before you gain level (the book implies it). The reason is due to the fact that you purchase and gain all of your skills when you level up. Hence, you cannot train for a skill after the fact either (although I could see a DM allowing this as a house rule).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no grey area.</p><p></p><p>If you are willing to quote some rules that even support that this is a grey area, people here are willing to listen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 1230594, member: 2011"] These are not my powergaming house rules. Other posters here have stated that these are the rules. Guess I'll just have to quote them. 3.5 PHB page 87 "A player simply chooses for his or her character. Each character gets a feat upon creation. ... he or she gains another feat ..." Note the words [b]gets[/b] and [b]gains[/b]. "Some feats have prerequisites. Your character must have the indicated ability score, class feature, feat, skill, base attack bonus or other quality designated in order to select or use that feat." Note the word [b]select[/b]. You GET feats at given levels. You can only SELECT feats if you meet the prerequisites. The rules are explicit. And, Wizards (not mages, there are no mages in the 3E or 3.5 version core rules) DO get their spells immediately upon gaining a level. 3.5 PHB page 57 "At each new level, she gains two new spells ... At this point, she can add two new spells of (various combos listed) ..." Note the phrases [b]At each new level[/b], [b]gains two new spells[/b] and [b]she can add[/b]. This is clear. It would be a house rule that casters would have to wait to get their level gained spells while out in the wilderness. Ditto for skills. You get the skills when you go up the level. You can only purchased trained skills if you go train. Although the book does not explicitly state it, you must train before you gain level (the book implies it). The reason is due to the fact that you purchase and gain all of your skills when you level up. Hence, you cannot train for a skill after the fact either (although I could see a DM allowing this as a house rule). There is no grey area. If you are willing to quote some rules that even support that this is a grey area, people here are willing to listen. [/QUOTE]
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