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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9462632" data-attributes="member: 7030563">Based on my 1st two 2024 games, the new landscape has changed how important certain saving throws are.In 5E the saves were in two distinct tiersWisdom, Dex and Constitution were tier 1 (best to worst)*Charisma, Intelligence, Strength were tier 2The difference between Constitution and Charisma though is far greater than the difference between Con and Wisdom or Charisma and STR.In 2024 though the weapon mastery and unarmed strike rules have made Dexterity OR Strength saves pretty important, and has also elevated Constitution above Wisdom.  Now I think it is less clear cut and the combo you have matters, not just the individual saves.If you have Strength proficiency then Constitution is probably the most important save from tier 1.If you do not have Strength proficiency then Dexterity is the most important save to have from tier 1.If you do not have Dexterity then Strength is the strongest in tier 2 and probably more valuable than Wisdom, but less important than Constitution.I think Rangers get the weakest saves in 2024 because Dex and Strength are often redundant and these are the two they get.I think Fighters and Barbarians now have the strongest saves overall instead of Warlocks and Clerics.** Note in this I am considering all levels 1-20.  If you are only looking at low level Wisdom is probably not as important as Dex or Con.</blockquote>