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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 4387242" data-attributes="member: 114">I'm not sure that I follow your reasoning here.It makes sense to me that someone who is prone can still 'grab onto something' to stop them being moved. The standard &quot;saving throw to become prone and stop the movement&quot; seems to me that it represents throwing yourself down and grabbing onto something. If you are already down when someone else tries to push you, you can still grab onto something.You're joking, right? Right?<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I think I'm likely to house-rule that if something is attempting to force move you, you can make the save to stop the movement. If you have anything nearby you can realistically grab onto (railing, statue, table) and have a free hand, your save negates the movement and you are still standing. If you don't have a free hand or you've got nothing you can realistically grab onto while standing up, then you get to drop prone and stop the movement that way.While I'm at it, I'll probably give the dwarvish 'stability' bonus to anything with 4 or more legs too, so they get moved one less square. Their extra legs *must* make them more stable than dwarfs, surely! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 4387242, member: 114"] I'm not sure that I follow your reasoning here. It makes sense to me that someone who is prone can still 'grab onto something' to stop them being moved. The standard "saving throw to become prone and stop the movement" seems to me that it represents throwing yourself down and grabbing onto something. If you are already down when someone else tries to push you, you can still grab onto something. You're joking, right? Right? :) I think I'm likely to house-rule that if something is attempting to force move you, you can make the save to stop the movement. If you have anything nearby you can realistically grab onto (railing, statue, table) and have a free hand, your save negates the movement and you are still standing. If you don't have a free hand or you've got nothing you can realistically grab onto while standing up, then you get to drop prone and stop the movement that way. While I'm at it, I'll probably give the dwarvish 'stability' bonus to anything with 4 or more legs too, so they get moved one less square. Their extra legs *must* make them more stable than dwarfs, surely! ;) Cheers [/QUOTE]

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