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<blockquote data-quote="Darkness" data-source="post: 712270" data-attributes="member: 13"><p>Another thing to consider:</p><p></p><p>Assume you area fighting a creature that, after factoring in all modifiers, you can hit only on a natural 20 (which can very well happen if you are suffering from some spell or poison that negatively impacts your combat ability - or, worse yet, several different penalties).</p><p>The auto-success rule makes it your best bet to make a maximum Power Attack or else Fight Defensively (plus as much Expertise and/or <em>defending</em> weapon, if available).</p><p>In fact, unless there's some rule that Power Attack and Fighting Defensively can't be used at the same time, it's your best course of action to do <em>both</em>.</p><p></p><p>And you will <em>still</em> hit as well as if you didn't have any of those additional to-hit penalties. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>If you still don't think that that's so bad, feel free to pile on even more penalties - ability score damage, a <em>curse</em> spell, using Flurry of Blows (or, better yet, that one S&F feat that gives a second bonus attack on a Flurry), Superior Expertise, etc., all at once. But you will still hit as well as someone else who has your exact same stats but none of these additional penalties. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Darkness, post: 712270, member: 13"] Another thing to consider: Assume you area fighting a creature that, after factoring in all modifiers, you can hit only on a natural 20 (which can very well happen if you are suffering from some spell or poison that negatively impacts your combat ability - or, worse yet, several different penalties). The auto-success rule makes it your best bet to make a maximum Power Attack or else Fight Defensively (plus as much Expertise and/or [i]defending[/i] weapon, if available). In fact, unless there's some rule that Power Attack and Fighting Defensively can't be used at the same time, it's your best course of action to do [i]both[/i]. And you will [i]still[/i] hit as well as if you didn't have any of those additional to-hit penalties. :rolleyes: If you still don't think that that's so bad, feel free to pile on even more penalties - ability score damage, a [i]curse[/i] spell, using Flurry of Blows (or, better yet, that one S&F feat that gives a second bonus attack on a Flurry), Superior Expertise, etc., all at once. But you will still hit as well as someone else who has your exact same stats but none of these additional penalties. :p [/QUOTE]
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