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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7634100" data-attributes="member: 6795602">playingActually run the numbers for a featless game.&nbsp; You'll be surprised how close things are.Yes.&nbsp; They are the most open class to various player concepts.&nbsp; Power has relatively little to do with it.No one said anything about magic items not being present.Because a lot of people don't like unarmored - non weapon wielding warriors in their medieval fantasy rpg - or at least don't like them as much as the armored warrior with a sword.No feats right.&nbsp; Whether there is a bard or paladin or cleric present doesn't matter.&nbsp; The fighter shouldn't have to depend on allies to have a halfway decent saving throw.Because he decided not to learn either of those spells?&nbsp; Again, the fighter shouldn't have to depend on allies to make get him out of having to make saves.They can do that too even if he isn't so sucktastic at saves.&nbsp; Takes nothing away from them other characters for characters to have better saves.Is there actually such an ability even in the game?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7634100, member: 6795602"] playing Actually run the numbers for a featless game. You'll be surprised how close things are. Yes. They are the most open class to various player concepts. Power has relatively little to do with it. No one said anything about magic items not being present. Because a lot of people don't like unarmored - non weapon wielding warriors in their medieval fantasy rpg - or at least don't like them as much as the armored warrior with a sword. No feats right. Whether there is a bard or paladin or cleric present doesn't matter. The fighter shouldn't have to depend on allies to have a halfway decent saving throw. Because he decided not to learn either of those spells? Again, the fighter shouldn't have to depend on allies to make get him out of having to make saves. They can do that too even if he isn't so sucktastic at saves. Takes nothing away from them other characters for characters to have better saves. Is there actually such an ability even in the game? [/QUOTE]

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