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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7634136" data-attributes="member: 6795602">It's quite rude to ask someone why they prefer something and then try to argue with them that the reasons they give for preferring it.I prefer to have my character start with all 20's in all my stats.&nbsp; It's a problem if you request other players not have their characters start with 20 in all their stats.&nbsp; See how absurd that is?feats aren't allowedI didn't say everyone disliked them.&nbsp; Heck I didn't say they were flat out disliked either, simply their aesthetics are less appealing to many in D&amp;D fantasy than a fighters.If you think the meatsheild is useful it's because the DM makes him so by focusing more enemies on him instead of the squishier party members.&nbsp; Mine does the same thing.&nbsp; It's a common way to play.&nbsp; But DM fiat doesn't override the mechanics, and the mechanics suggest that most enemies don't care one bit about running past the fighter's puny OA if they want to attack something else.There's 11 classes.&nbsp; Parties are typically 4-5 members.&nbsp; There's hundreds maybe even thousands of party compositions.So please tell me how a featless fighter or barbarian keeps any enemy focused on attacking him instead of the wizard?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7634136, member: 6795602"] It's quite rude to ask someone why they prefer something and then try to argue with them that the reasons they give for preferring it. I prefer to have my character start with all 20's in all my stats. It's a problem if you request other players not have their characters start with 20 in all their stats. See how absurd that is? feats aren't allowed I didn't say everyone disliked them. Heck I didn't say they were flat out disliked either, simply their aesthetics are less appealing to many in D&D fantasy than a fighters. If you think the meatsheild is useful it's because the DM makes him so by focusing more enemies on him instead of the squishier party members. Mine does the same thing. It's a common way to play. But DM fiat doesn't override the mechanics, and the mechanics suggest that most enemies don't care one bit about running past the fighter's puny OA if they want to attack something else. There's 11 classes. Parties are typically 4-5 members. There's hundreds maybe even thousands of party compositions. So please tell me how a featless fighter or barbarian keeps any enemy focused on attacking him instead of the wizard? [/QUOTE]

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