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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7634150" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>Where did I suggest that? You are good at inventing strawmen. It's twice now you've accused me of a position I've never taken.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can't. So why don't you spell out the difference?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They are banned in the campaign we are in.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Did you forget I said "if the monster wanted to". Obviously your monsters don't ever want to go after the casters - though I don't think you have a great justification for it. By the way, you do recall that the question was, If they did want to go after the casters what would be stopping them?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Generally we play whatever we want and to heck with filling roles for the sake of filling roles. We do tend to like to not be the same class though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I ask the same question. Usually it's so I don't create something to similar to someone else.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't believe that such a significant portion of your encounters have doorways for the fighters to block that this is even worth considering. And what's 40ft got to do with it? Why wouldn't said monster dash to the wizard if it wanted to attack him? Interestingly enough that dash it also puts the GWF out of range of attacking him next turn.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are really reaching with most of this here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's the real method. Which is 99% DM Fiat. The DM doesn't have the monster want to run past the big scary dude. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't desire feats but I'm an optimizer and I know the feats very well. I don't believe you should need a feat to offer enemies some meaningful resistance to moving past you. I believe gating something so basic behind a feat is a detriment to the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7634150, member: 6795602"] Where did I suggest that? You are good at inventing strawmen. It's twice now you've accused me of a position I've never taken. I can't. So why don't you spell out the difference? They are banned in the campaign we are in. Did you forget I said "if the monster wanted to". Obviously your monsters don't ever want to go after the casters - though I don't think you have a great justification for it. By the way, you do recall that the question was, If they did want to go after the casters what would be stopping them? Generally we play whatever we want and to heck with filling roles for the sake of filling roles. We do tend to like to not be the same class though. I ask the same question. Usually it's so I don't create something to similar to someone else. I don't believe that such a significant portion of your encounters have doorways for the fighters to block that this is even worth considering. And what's 40ft got to do with it? Why wouldn't said monster dash to the wizard if it wanted to attack him? Interestingly enough that dash it also puts the GWF out of range of attacking him next turn. You are really reaching with most of this here. That's the real method. Which is 99% DM Fiat. The DM doesn't have the monster want to run past the big scary dude. I don't desire feats but I'm an optimizer and I know the feats very well. I don't believe you should need a feat to offer enemies some meaningful resistance to moving past you. I believe gating something so basic behind a feat is a detriment to the game. [/QUOTE]
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