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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7634196" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>Of course, which is why the proposal is to increase everyone's saves not just the fighters. Saves in high level games are too low compared to the normal DC.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>So much better? I'm suggesting the 8 wisdom fighter should have about a 20% chance of success as opposed to a 10% chance. If he got proficiency and maxed wisdom that would put him at 80% </p><p></p><p>...Which you are right is still too high if anything can then stack on top of that. </p><p></p><p>On the bright side - we have learned something important about 5e. the real issue with saves and why they couldn't be placed where they should have been is due to bounded accuracy and having the total bonus range cover nearly the whole d20. They had to start you off abysmal to keep you out of auto save range.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7634196, member: 6795602"] Of course, which is why the proposal is to increase everyone's saves not just the fighters. Saves in high level games are too low compared to the normal DC. So much better? I'm suggesting the 8 wisdom fighter should have about a 20% chance of success as opposed to a 10% chance. If he got proficiency and maxed wisdom that would put him at 80% ...Which you are right is still too high if anything can then stack on top of that. On the bright side - we have learned something important about 5e. the real issue with saves and why they couldn't be placed where they should have been is due to bounded accuracy and having the total bonus range cover nearly the whole d20. They had to start you off abysmal to keep you out of auto save range. [/QUOTE]
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