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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mephistopheles" data-source="post: 4083564" data-attributes="member: 4460">That's a fair point on it's own merit, although I'd expect a level 30 wizard has more interesting options than playing losing odds at putting level 30 monsters to sleep. It still has nothing to do with 3.5E, though. Regardless of how the 3.5E sleep spell works the 4E sleep spell still has the odds against it of actually putting anything to sleep. I made the comment more as an observation than as a criticism, yet the tired old "But in 3.5E..." routine was brought into it anyway.Edit: Just to add, I think it's entirely possible that the spell as written is balanced within 4E as it has other things going for it to even out the odds so long as the caster can make sure he catches plenty of targets in the AoE. However, the smaller the number of targets caught in the AoE the more random the impact of the spell becomes as the 45-55 split approaches pretty close to 50-50 odds. That will probably be a common routine when considering the use of AoE powers in 4E as it looks like it will be in the casters best interest more than ever to get as many targets into their AoE as possible.</blockquote>