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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 8728255" data-attributes="member: 67338">lets look at replaceing 1 stat up with reselence and see if it really is the big help (maybe you are right)Okay so I have a 13 stat lets take resilient in that, and lower my prime stat to 18this makes me 18 16 14 14 10 8 with saves of (again magics +1)&nbsp; to +9 +7 +4 +7 +1 +0&nbsp; ( so in order 9 7 7 4 1 0)now my best save went up by 4 4 4 3 1 1&nbsp; against the DC going up by5&nbsp;&nbsp; meaning you 'only' fall 1 behind on 3 fall 2 behind on 1 and 4 behind on the las twoso this doesn't seem to be much better... maybe if I put all 3 into it+1 to my 16 doesn't change the mod but give me prof and +1 to the ten does the same but I loose the 18 prime stat16 17 14 14 11 8 now gives +8 +8 +7 +7 +5 +0&nbsp; so that reall eavens out the spread, but does it by taking the save that kept up and knocking it down...&nbsp; so I started at +5 +3 +3 +1 +0 -1&nbsp; that means I got over the levels +3 +5 +4 +4 +4 +1 while the DC went up by 5 so 1 stat did still keep up (just not prime stat now) so with 3 feats invested that seems to more or less keep us even...I just realized I stil have a +1 +1 stat line adjustment built in but I am not going back to redo it...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 8728255, member: 67338"] lets look at replaceing 1 stat up with reselence and see if it really is the big help (maybe you are right) Okay so I have a 13 stat lets take resilient in that, and lower my prime stat to 18 this makes me 18 16 14 14 10 8 with saves of (again magics +1) to +9 +7 +4 +7 +1 +0 ( so in order 9 7 7 4 1 0) now my best save went up by 4 4 4 3 1 1 against the DC going up by5 meaning you 'only' fall 1 behind on 3 fall 2 behind on 1 and 4 behind on the las two so this doesn't seem to be much better... maybe if I put all 3 into it +1 to my 16 doesn't change the mod but give me prof and +1 to the ten does the same but I loose the 18 prime stat 16 17 14 14 11 8 now gives +8 +8 +7 +7 +5 +0 so that reall eavens out the spread, but does it by taking the save that kept up and knocking it down... so I started at +5 +3 +3 +1 +0 -1 that means I got over the levels +3 +5 +4 +4 +4 +1 while the DC went up by 5 so 1 stat did still keep up (just not prime stat now) so with 3 feats invested that seems to more or less keep us even... I just realized I stil have a +1 +1 stat line adjustment built in but I am not going back to redo it... [/QUOTE]

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