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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 4523890" data-attributes="member: 1003">If that's a significant change I'm a pink elephant. The only difference is that the DM rolls instead of the player. The roll is the same. There was no other change.That's a change in the powers, not the Defenses. You could have written a Feat in 3.x (some sort of Weapon Finesse) that caused Rapiers to attack the Ref Save, and it would have amounted to the same thing.But of course they never did. It's the change in the Powers that's the real innovation.I don't like 4E Saves much. Or did you get your terminology wrong and mean Defense?So? He's 10th level. A 10th level Hero should be better than a 1st level Hero in every respect, regardless of class.I'm fine with it. Per above, I think Gandalf brought the hurt with Glamdring. He didn't need to be as good a fighter as a Fighter of the same level, but he was able to lay into those soldiers of Sauron with much badassery. And I'm a fan of badassery, all things being equal.</blockquote>