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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kaomera" data-source="post: 5444166" data-attributes="member: 38357">That sounds like good advice, but I've had an issue, in the past, with players not being willing to participate in the game until I'm "actually ready to run". I suppose that would just put us into the later time, and there would at least have been the possibility of working something out...Yeah, I've found that play balance can be a thorny issue. A lot of players I encounter, play balance issues are really the only thing they really think about or research regarding game design. Invoking "play balance" provokes arguments, which I could deal with, but in picking my battles I think it's better to go for what I really want, which is usually story stuff.And lack of player interest in setting fluff is a decent part of the issue, certainly. What confounds me more is the seeming desire to have every option available, even though you can't use them all at once. It really seems to me that most players have their next character decided on and "on deck" in advance (otherwise why is it so hard for them to come up with something that actually fits the setting?), so it annoys me that I can't usually get them to give me that info. I'd be very happy to build a campaign setting around a set of character concepts, for instance...As a player, I like a certain amount of limitation. I have dozens and dozens of character ideas I'd like to someday get a chance to try and I'm sure I can find something that fits or can be made to fit nearly any setting / campaign. What bugs me (as a player) is GMs who seem to try to enforce the double-blind, insisting that I should come up with a character concept on my own that "I really want to play" without any input from them... In D&D, at least, it's usually easy for me to just get ideas from the other players / "fill in the holes" in the party, but for some other games (WoD, frex) where you would not normally get to see the other players' characters, it's pretty maddening.Yeah, that was pretty much exactly my issue and why I ended up backing down from placing limits on the PCs.It also didn't / doesn't help that I think the second player was at least in part deliberately picking a more complex character type to prove that "he could do it". The results weren't really satisfactory for anyone, and he ended up dropping the character after only a few weeks anyway...</blockquote>

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