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<blockquote data-quote="Noctem" data-source="post: 6798918" data-attributes="member: 6801315"><p>You don't need to belittle the person you speak with btw. You're being condescending as well imo and I would like you to stop. I am not a kid or child. I'm an adult, just like you are (presumably). So let's stop that now k?</p><p></p><p>I never said that your claims were related, you just invented that. I said that they, as a whole, didn't make sense. The more you explain though, the more it seems that you have certain beliefs that aren't compatible with the rules you quoted. For example, the bag being damaged by putting an item inside of it (an extra-dimensional space). You're belief that the bag can be damaged from the inside is incorrect. You can't damage the bag from the inside with a sharp weapon. The physical bag is outside of the extra-dimensional space, it serves as a link or portal to said space. If you're inside, you can't harm the bag. You have no physical way of doing that. However if you're outside the bag, and you damage it to the point where the rule you quoted would come into effect, the items inside would be dropped into another plane of existence, so even then, the sword isn't drawing itself out or whatever you claimed. It would be found again, as per the rule you quoted, eventually since sentient items are never truly lost per the general idea.</p><p></p><p>Also note that the rule you quoted doesn't talk about something inside the bag causing damage, it talks about the physical bag itself being damaged.</p><p></p><p>So yeah, the idea that by dropping a unsheathed sword into a bag of holding is going to rip or damage the actual physical bag causing you to lose everything inside it, though funny is complete nonsense. Saying "it's always worked this way" is also complete nonsense. Maybe it "always worked this way" for your group or you specifically, but that's not the case anywhere else AFAIK. Not the games using the DnD rules, not the editions I've played.. I've also played Adventure League which is official organized play and I've never heard of the claims you're making here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Noctem, post: 6798918, member: 6801315"] You don't need to belittle the person you speak with btw. You're being condescending as well imo and I would like you to stop. I am not a kid or child. I'm an adult, just like you are (presumably). So let's stop that now k? I never said that your claims were related, you just invented that. I said that they, as a whole, didn't make sense. The more you explain though, the more it seems that you have certain beliefs that aren't compatible with the rules you quoted. For example, the bag being damaged by putting an item inside of it (an extra-dimensional space). You're belief that the bag can be damaged from the inside is incorrect. You can't damage the bag from the inside with a sharp weapon. The physical bag is outside of the extra-dimensional space, it serves as a link or portal to said space. If you're inside, you can't harm the bag. You have no physical way of doing that. However if you're outside the bag, and you damage it to the point where the rule you quoted would come into effect, the items inside would be dropped into another plane of existence, so even then, the sword isn't drawing itself out or whatever you claimed. It would be found again, as per the rule you quoted, eventually since sentient items are never truly lost per the general idea. Also note that the rule you quoted doesn't talk about something inside the bag causing damage, it talks about the physical bag itself being damaged. So yeah, the idea that by dropping a unsheathed sword into a bag of holding is going to rip or damage the actual physical bag causing you to lose everything inside it, though funny is complete nonsense. Saying "it's always worked this way" is also complete nonsense. Maybe it "always worked this way" for your group or you specifically, but that's not the case anywhere else AFAIK. Not the games using the DnD rules, not the editions I've played.. I've also played Adventure League which is official organized play and I've never heard of the claims you're making here. [/QUOTE]
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