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<blockquote data-quote="Ltheb Silverfrond" data-source="post: 4232040" data-attributes="member: 39867"><p>Class features don't normally continue to scale if you multiclass. So you might want to add, say, a cosmic ability (I figure that might be about right) to allow it (for one class feature). HOWEVER. - Not all class features are created equal, and this may cause the rules to spontaneously explode:</p><p>Scaling powers are good because, as long as whatever you compare them to scales at the same rate, they will always do the same thing. But, in allowing 2 abilities that normally should not scale together to do so, you may create a situation where both of those abilities, in tandem, work together to cause <strong>Bad Things</strong> to happen. </p><p>Example: Both Sneak Attack and Smite Evil add damage to an attack and scale ~ Linearly. Meaning they mean about the same thing at level 2 as they do 20. Adding them together, however, you may find that +1d6+2 damage / two levels is a ridiculous sum of damage ON TOP OF normal damage. Or Monk/Swashbuckler AC bonuses. Or pretty much everything that could potentially be used WITH another class feature potentially useful at the same time.</p><p></p><p>I would recommend, if you wish to offer this to players (or balance monsters with it), that you price such a capability as Cosmic, and require the person taking the power to Specify a specific class feature. I think anything lower than a cosmic ability would be too cheap a cost to a character and would lead to a 'pile-it-on' scenario. Also it might become too common and dilute class worth. "You are a Cleric? Well Bob over here is a Fighter with all of a Cleric's powers. He's like you, except much better."</p><p>Plus, in several WotC supplements for 3.5 (PHB 2?), they present feats for doing just this but with specific and (hopefully) carefully chosen class features.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ltheb Silverfrond, post: 4232040, member: 39867"] Class features don't normally continue to scale if you multiclass. So you might want to add, say, a cosmic ability (I figure that might be about right) to allow it (for one class feature). HOWEVER. - Not all class features are created equal, and this may cause the rules to spontaneously explode: Scaling powers are good because, as long as whatever you compare them to scales at the same rate, they will always do the same thing. But, in allowing 2 abilities that normally should not scale together to do so, you may create a situation where both of those abilities, in tandem, work together to cause [b]Bad Things[/b] to happen. Example: Both Sneak Attack and Smite Evil add damage to an attack and scale ~ Linearly. Meaning they mean about the same thing at level 2 as they do 20. Adding them together, however, you may find that +1d6+2 damage / two levels is a ridiculous sum of damage ON TOP OF normal damage. Or Monk/Swashbuckler AC bonuses. Or pretty much everything that could potentially be used WITH another class feature potentially useful at the same time. I would recommend, if you wish to offer this to players (or balance monsters with it), that you price such a capability as Cosmic, and require the person taking the power to Specify a specific class feature. I think anything lower than a cosmic ability would be too cheap a cost to a character and would lead to a 'pile-it-on' scenario. Also it might become too common and dilute class worth. "You are a Cleric? Well Bob over here is a Fighter with all of a Cleric's powers. He's like you, except much better." Plus, in several WotC supplements for 3.5 (PHB 2?), they present feats for doing just this but with specific and (hopefully) carefully chosen class features. [/QUOTE]
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