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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 6094047" data-attributes="member: 463">Hm, yeah I can see you'd probably want to be in Paragon for D1-D2. You could do D3 ok in Epic by using the MM3 drow.Here are some "original G1-3" style hill frost and fire giants I did in 2011 when I was thinking like you, geared to the level 8-12 range of the originals.ANT ELITES (HP ARE HALF RAW)Hill Giant Barbarian    Level 8 Elite BruteLarge natural humanoid    XP 700Initiative +3        Senses Perception +4HP 107; Bloodied 53AC 21; Fortitude 22; Reflex 17; Will 18Saving Throws +2Speed 8 Action Points 1m Greatclub (standard; at-will) • WeaponReach 2; +13 vs AC; 3d10 + 9 damagem Sweeping Club (standard; at-will) • WeaponReach 2; The hill giant makes a greatclub attack against one or two Medium or smaller targets; on a hit, the target is pushed 2 squares and knocked prone.; +13 vs AC; 3d10 + 9 damageR Hurl Rock (standard; at-will) Ranged 12; +10 vs Reflex; 3d6 + 9 damage; and a Small or Medium target is pushed 1 square and knocked prone.M Brutal Strike (standard; recharge 5 6) • WeaponReach 2; The hill giant makes a brutal overhead strike to the foe's head.; +13 vs AC; 4d10 + 18 damage, and a Small, Medium or Large target is knocked prone and dazed (save ends)Steady FootingWhen an effect pulls, pushes, or slides a hill giant, the giant moves 1 square less than the effect specifies. Also, the giant can make a saving throw to avoid being knocked prone.Alignment Chaotic Evil    Languages GiantSkills Athletics +14Str 21 (+9)    Dex 8 (+3)    Wis 10 (+4)Con 17 (+7)    Int 5 (+1)    Cha 7 (+2)Equipment Hide Armor, GreatclubFrost Giant    Level 10 Elite BruteLarge elemental humanoid    XP 1,000Initiative +6        Senses Perception +8HP 128; Bloodied 64AC 24; Fortitude 22; Reflex 19; Will 20Resist 10 coldSaving Throws +2Speed 8 Action Points 1m Icy Greataxe (standard; at-will) • Cold, WeaponReach 2; +15 vs AC; 3d12 + 10 (crit 3d12 + 46) weapon damage plus 10 cold damage; and a small or medium target is knocked proneM Dying Swipe (when the frost giant drops to 0 hit points) The frost giant makes an icy greataxe attackC Chilling Breath (minor; recharge 5 6) • ColdClose Blast 3; The giant's breath enfolds his foes, and chilling ice rimes their bodies.; +11 vs Fortitude; 2d6 + 9 cold damage, and the target is slowed and gains vulnerable 10 cold (save ends both)R Icy Dart (standard; at-will) • Cold, WeaponThe giant plucks an icicle from his beard and throws it at the foe.Ranged 10; +13 vs AC; 3d6 + 10 cold damage Icebound Footing (at-will) When an effect pulls, pushes, or slides a frost giant, the giant moves 2 squares less than the effect specifies. Also, a frost giant can make a saving throw to avoid being knocked prone.Alignment Evil    Languages GiantSkills Athletics +15, Endurance +14Str 21 (+10)    Dex 13 (+6)    Wis 17 (+8)Con 18 (+9)    Int 10 (+5)    Cha 12 (+6)Equipment Scale Armor, GreataxeFire Giant Warrior    Level 11 Elite BruteLarge elemental humanoid    XP 1,200Initiative +4        Senses Perception +11HP 144; Bloodied 72AC 26; Fortitude 24; Reflex 20; Will 21Resist 15 fireSaving Throws +2Speed 7 Action Points 1m Searing Greatsword (standard; at-will) • Fire, WeaponReach 2; +16 vs AC; 4d10 + 11 damage plus 10 fire damage, and a Secondary Attack vs small or medium target: + 14 vs Fortitude.  Hit: Target is knocked prone.M Sweeping Sword (standard; at-will) • Fire, WeaponReach 2, 1 or 2 targets, Requires greatsword; +14 vs AC; 3d10 + 11 damage plus 10 fire damage, and small or medium targets are pushed 3 squares and knocked prone.R Iron Dart (standard; at-will) • WeaponRanged 20; +15 vs AC; 2d8 + 10 damage, and a small or medium target is pushed 2 squares.Steady FootingWhen an effect pulls, pushes, or slides a fire giant, the giant moves 1 square less than the effect specifies. Also, the giant can make a saving throw to avoid being knocked prone.Alignment Evil    Languages GiantSkills Intimidate +13, Athletics +16, Endurance +17Str 23 (+11)    Dex 9 (+4)    Wis 13 (+6)Con 24 (+12)    Int 12 (+6)    Cha 16 (+8)Equipment Plate Armor, Greatsword</blockquote>

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