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<blockquote data-quote="Zimri" data-source="post: 4111196" data-attributes="member: 15991">Just to add since I missed the question in Rykarr's post.It really is mostly mind's eye, we've been gaming together for nigh on 20 years now so being sure we are all &quot;on the same page&quot; as to the situation is really quite simple.&quot;as you burst through the door to the north you see 8 kobolds celebrating a kill, there are strewn body parts, a worktable, and a furnace, one of the kobolds grabs a piece of corpse and tosses it into the furnace with a maniacal giggle, the rest turn to face the sound of your arrival&quot;&quot;the room is x by y the work table is approximately in the middle there are three kobolds on each side and two by the furnace which is in the middle of the northren wall. there are doors to the east and west roll initiative&quot;Crusader &quot;I'm heading to the closest critter on the left side Someone eventually come flank please&quot;Ranger &quot; Awesome I hate kobolds can I move to flank&quot;Dm &quot;Sure but you'll take an aoo&quot;Ranger &quot;No worries it's worth it&quot;Paladin and Melee Cleric &quot;Well left looks crowded lets go right&quot;Rogue &quot;Hmm that one is injured I'll tumble into a flanked position with it&quot;Next roundCrusader &quot;Hmmm the rogue isn't looking good I use the power of my stance to heal her a little she's close enough right ?&quot;and so on.A mat may have made sure we asked fewer questions but we got by just fine without it. I edited out more of the talky bits so it sounds more tactical than it was but that was from an encounter last night. The time we spent in questions would have been used counting squares&nbsp; instead. I haven't seen anything from 4e yet that makes our style seem untenable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zimri, post: 4111196, member: 15991"] Just to add since I missed the question in Rykarr's post. It really is mostly mind's eye, we've been gaming together for nigh on 20 years now so being sure we are all "on the same page" as to the situation is really quite simple. "as you burst through the door to the north you see 8 kobolds celebrating a kill, there are strewn body parts, a worktable, and a furnace, one of the kobolds grabs a piece of corpse and tosses it into the furnace with a maniacal giggle, the rest turn to face the sound of your arrival" "the room is x by y the work table is approximately in the middle there are three kobolds on each side and two by the furnace which is in the middle of the northren wall. there are doors to the east and west roll initiative" Crusader "I'm heading to the closest critter on the left side Someone eventually come flank please" Ranger " Awesome I hate kobolds can I move to flank" Dm "Sure but you'll take an aoo" Ranger "No worries it's worth it" Paladin and Melee Cleric "Well left looks crowded lets go right" Rogue "Hmm that one is injured I'll tumble into a flanked position with it" Next round Crusader "Hmmm the rogue isn't looking good I use the power of my stance to heal her a little she's close enough right ?" and so on. A mat may have made sure we asked fewer questions but we got by just fine without it. I edited out more of the talky bits so it sounds more tactical than it was but that was from an encounter last night. The time we spent in questions would have been used counting squares instead. I haven't seen anything from 4e yet that makes our style seem untenable. [/QUOTE]

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