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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ketjak" data-source="post: 578779" data-attributes="member: 1083">Er?Er, the stats for the races in the CC are already in the CC, and the reasons for MM critters being in the SL are already in my head, so you're recommending I shell out another $30 for new art and templates - one of which we might use once? Um. <blink> SS' stuff is good, but not worth twice as much as the listed retail price. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />And I think it's safer to say there will be errata. I'm looking for a way to upgrade my current version without buying a new one that has most of the same information in it. That's more reasonable than spending $30 for new CRs and a few lazy-aids. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />You go through a lot of PCs as a DM, don't you? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> For what it's worth, Athentia's CR is probably undergunned as well. A 20th level sorcerer has a CR of 20, give or take for abilities and items and whatnot. But she's not a mere sorcerer.A Sor20/Drd12 is CR 32, give or take. She has only 28 hit dice, but has well more hit points than the "average" sor20/drd12 will have (she has 322, vs Joe Average's 136 (70+66, assumes Con12). Let's scale her back a little because she doesn't have magic armor or items and no Spell Resistance (!) so say she's down to 75% of what her class abilities would indicate - 24 or so. I'd drop her to 22 for the spell resistance oversight on the designer's part. She's not as scary as a dragon, that's for sure.  "...One of the most feared... creatures in the Scarred Lands." Not!Yes, I know the CR system is a guide. It looks as if the CC1 & CC2 monster authors were a little shy on knowledge of the system. I'm following those guidelines/, without Scott's or Monte's number on my speed dial! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />To repeat myself for the sake of clarity: it's a good book and I'd buy CC3 if it were out! It just overlooked some things about the CR system that will utterly annihilate your parties if you're not careful. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> It could use an errata to fix those CRs (and a few other things).I didn't say "MOST of them are broken or need as much fixing." In fact, I said Anyway, this is academic though fun. You've made this clear:- no web availability of further CC1 upgrades- no electronic availability of CC1 or CC2 statblocks is planned (though you never addressed that specifically, so I'm inferring)You also didn't specifically address whether or how SS was going to address making their OGC critter stats available without changing the name of the critters. I can infer- no plan exists, and we're on our ownThat all true? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />- Ket</blockquote>

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