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<blockquote data-quote="JDJblatherings" data-source="post: 3916256" data-attributes="member: 52044">What dopes that really mean?&nbsp; I was playing 1st edition until 92-93. Mt last D&amp;D campaign before 3e was a Rules Cyclopedia campaign in 98 (2 noobs still playign own games since then).&nbsp; My long running 3e campaign had a large number of totally new (or non-AD&amp;D playing&nbsp; gamers) at one point our group was 50/50 newbies/crusty veterans out of a dozen players . Of that dozen 4 noobs, all had to move away as careers and military service required and all of them still play RPGs. My BFRPG campaign had 5 (was 6) people in it (other then me), none of them post to enworld that I am aware of it, only 3 of them played 1st edtion. None of the 5 other people I play Earthdawn with post at enworld.&nbsp; No one in the WoD campaign I entered post at enworld either. a group of players i drop in and out of that has rabid &quot;d20 only&quot; players only has one person out of 8 or 9 that visits enworld occasionaly. In closing, out of about 20 gamers, 2 of us read and post at enworld, forum population shows the hardcore RPG fan-base but not all of the RPG fan-base or market. Enworld polls tell you about folks that use enworld not the rest of gaming.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JDJblatherings, post: 3916256, member: 52044"] What dopes that really mean? I was playing 1st edition until 92-93. Mt last D&D campaign before 3e was a Rules Cyclopedia campaign in 98 (2 noobs still playign own games since then). My long running 3e campaign had a large number of totally new (or non-AD&D playing gamers) at one point our group was 50/50 newbies/crusty veterans out of a dozen players . Of that dozen 4 noobs, all had to move away as careers and military service required and all of them still play RPGs. My BFRPG campaign had 5 (was 6) people in it (other then me), none of them post to enworld that I am aware of it, only 3 of them played 1st edtion. None of the 5 other people I play Earthdawn with post at enworld. No one in the WoD campaign I entered post at enworld either. a group of players i drop in and out of that has rabid "d20 only" players only has one person out of 8 or 9 that visits enworld occasionaly. In closing, out of about 20 gamers, 2 of us read and post at enworld, forum population shows the hardcore RPG fan-base but not all of the RPG fan-base or market. Enworld polls tell you about folks that use enworld not the rest of gaming. [/QUOTE]

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