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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gnimish88" data-source="post: 1552012" data-attributes="member: 15041">Dear gods, not again!If you want to see the thread from the last time darkvision vs. hide in plain sight came up try following this link:<a href="http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?t=77761" target="_blank">http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?t=77761</a>Nothing in the ability description says anything about a shadowdancer hiding in shadows, doesn't talk about the shadows enveloping them, all it says is that a shadowdancer within 10' of a shadow that isn't cast by them can hide without concealment.  That is it.  It certainly doesn't talk about anybodies ability to percieve the shadows making any difference.  Why do people keep looking for a rational for how it works?  For those who think the shadows envelope the person, explain to me how a shadows obscuring an area in the middle of a well light room with a table within 10' of the shadowdancer (the shadows are under the table) is anything like inconspicuous?My previous experience with a GM is that it basically works like invisibiliy, is powered by a connection to the plane of shadows through the conduit of a nearby shadow and activated and maintained by hide checks.  Why is this such a problem for people?Sorry for the rant, but this one gets under my skin.  It isn't like it is all that powerful, particularly when you look at what a shadowdancer gives up compared to a straight thief.</blockquote>