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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sejs" data-source="post: 1553032" data-attributes="member: 4910">Incorrect.  Just because someone with darkvision (like say a Shadowdancer of 2nd level or more) can see thru the shadows does not mean that they are not there.  A Shadowdancer's ability to Hide In Plain Sight has no dependancy on the person they are trying to hide from being able to percieve a shadow within 10' of the Shadowdancer.  The shadow just has to be present.  Darkvision does absolutly nothing to stop a Shadowdancer from Hiding In Plain Sight.  Darkvision does nothing to assist someone in locating a Shadowdancer who is Hiding In Plain Sight, it just means that the person with darkvision can observe the SD despite darkness - however, HiPS lets the SD hide even while being directly observed.Scent would help to locate a HiPSing character the same way it would help to locate an invisible one.  However, it generally takes either a few rounds or being very close to the hiding person to get a fix on 'em.  The Improved Scent feat from Savage Species is of some help there, as it extends the pinpoint range out from 5' to 20'.</blockquote>