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<blockquote data-quote="Sejs" data-source="post: 1554502" data-attributes="member: 4910"><p><em>...not that you are actually granted solid cover to hide behind...</em></p><p><em>The HiPS rule only says that you don't need something to hide behind...</em></p><p></p><p>The darkvision character would see a hallway, without shadows, minus the person that is hidden from them. Hidden in <em>plain sight</em> as it were. And again, just because the person with darkvision can see thru the shadows, does not mean the shadows are not there. </p><p></p><p> Three restrictions, actually (cover, concealment, observation), but anyway - you're right in that it doesn't grant cover (none is needed), or invisibility. Invisibility is a defined term; it is the effect of the Invisibility spell. The Invisibility spell grants you a bonus to your hide check, HiPS does not. If HiPS said that it makes you invisible, you would get +20 to your hide check if moving, +40 if standing still.</p><p></p><p></p><p>An aside: looking over darkvision, I'm not sure it lets you see thru all shadow. Looking around the room I'm in now, there are plenty of objects casting shadows that I can see thru just fine. Darkvision lets you see thru darkness that would otherwise obscure your vision.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sejs, post: 1554502, member: 4910"] [i]...not that you are actually granted solid cover to hide behind...[/i] [i]The HiPS rule only says that you don't need something to hide behind...[/i] The darkvision character would see a hallway, without shadows, minus the person that is hidden from them. Hidden in [i]plain sight[/i] as it were. And again, just because the person with darkvision can see thru the shadows, does not mean the shadows are not there. Three restrictions, actually (cover, concealment, observation), but anyway - you're right in that it doesn't grant cover (none is needed), or invisibility. Invisibility is a defined term; it is the effect of the Invisibility spell. The Invisibility spell grants you a bonus to your hide check, HiPS does not. If HiPS said that it makes you invisible, you would get +20 to your hide check if moving, +40 if standing still. An aside: looking over darkvision, I'm not sure it lets you see thru all shadow. Looking around the room I'm in now, there are plenty of objects casting shadows that I can see thru just fine. Darkvision lets you see thru darkness that would otherwise obscure your vision. [/QUOTE]
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