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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DrSpunj" data-source="post: 1427186" data-attributes="member: 994">It's not a bad one, but like you said it takes a bit of a mental shift to work on. Just a few quick thoughts before I let it mull awhile:We'll need special notes about the various senses that spell out when they allow a check and when not. That's not a big deal since we have to do the same thing for Awareness or whatever, just the same.Scent doesn't fit nicely, or I need you to explain how it works under this system. Scent allows you to know the presence within 30', but not the actual square until you're within 5'. I don't see how your proposal works with the definition of Sense you've listed above...unless...you get a check as soon as you're within Scent-range? And if you make it you know which square they're in? Meaning it's actually more powerful under this skill because you have the potential to pinpoint the square from further than 5' away? I don't think that's what you're proposing, but as I said, I can't make Scent "fit" into the scheme you've described.I'm sure I'll come up with others, but I like the basic premise. It's very similar to the Hide/Spot/Invisibility scenario under Core. Someone who's Invisible & Hiding can still get the jump on someone who's Spotted the fact that someone Invisible is nearby but hasn't pinpointed their location yet. Actually, in that scenario I'd probably give a bonus (+4?) to a Spot check made after a successful Sense check.Another random thought, since Sense could be a bit confusing with Sense Motive, I might still go with Awareness instead of Sense, and if your proposal works out just leave Spot separate.Hmmm....DrSpunj</blockquote>

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