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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6502052" data-attributes="member: 4937">Agreed.  I've been wrestling with that problem with my own 3.X rules branch.  At one point, I rewrote the cure spells to depend on the HD of the target rather than the level of the caster.  However, I quickly gave up on that for balance reasons - at low levels, the spells were too weak to allow for the sort of sustained play healing promotes, whereas at high levels the application of a low level spell cured too much.  I'm still a bit bothered by it, and would love to have a good solution, but things like spell abundance depend on assumptions of spell utility and there are lots of things that can unravel if you aren't careful where you pull out threads and replace them.  Balance on the cure spells is just a lot easier if you stick with the present scale, and since I have many bigger worries, fixing healing has been pushed to the back burner.While I believe firmly that 4e was a mistake, and made several questionable design decisions, I don't blindly believe everything 4e did was bad nor do I disagree with most of 4e's (IMO largely unrealized) goals.  Several aspects of 4e have already influenced my own D&D heartbreaker, and its likely that at some point I'll visit the concept of surges in some form to regulate and balance how healing works.And all that said, it doesn't change the fact that hit points were given a concrete and reasonable definition and color right from the start.  Hit points are abstract and obviously never intended to be perfectly realistic in all details, but exactly what they abstract is not nebulously defined in early editions of the game.  Gygax clearly specifies that every damaging wound always does at least some meat damage as well as possibly some metaphysical damage.   I don't think we need to revisit how 4e screws this up in a few edge cases, or makes other changes to the assumptions that had prevailed from OD&D to 3e, much less reach some agreement over whether we should even care or whether these changes marked an improvement, but I prefer everyone choose to believe what they believe on the basis of facts.   It is not the case that 1e hit points were defined a truly nebulous way.</blockquote>

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