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<blockquote data-quote="Vyvyan Basterd" data-source="post: 4548567" data-attributes="member: 4892"><p>This is where I think you are utterly wrong and narrow-minded in what constitutes role-playing. A role-playing game does not require you to play out actions of real people. At least not as it relates to real world people. The game defines what a "real person" is in the simulated world. Wizards are people that can hurl fire, Superhero games define real people as having extraordinary abilities, and the action-adventure genre defines real people as being able to take incredible amounts of punishment but keep going (see Die Hard, Rambo, etc.)</p><p></p><p>4E is definitely encamped in the action adventure/fantasy camp. Martial character can take massive amounts of punishment and keep going. They ARE real people as defined by the genre.</p><p></p><p>If you do not like roleplaying the action adventure genre, then you won't like 4E. To each his own.</p><p></p><p>But to claim that 4E is not "as much" rpging as other games is ludicrous at best. It smacks of claims of badwrongfun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vyvyan Basterd, post: 4548567, member: 4892"] This is where I think you are utterly wrong and narrow-minded in what constitutes role-playing. A role-playing game does not require you to play out actions of real people. At least not as it relates to real world people. The game defines what a "real person" is in the simulated world. Wizards are people that can hurl fire, Superhero games define real people as having extraordinary abilities, and the action-adventure genre defines real people as being able to take incredible amounts of punishment but keep going (see Die Hard, Rambo, etc.) 4E is definitely encamped in the action adventure/fantasy camp. Martial character can take massive amounts of punishment and keep going. They ARE real people as defined by the genre. If you do not like roleplaying the action adventure genre, then you won't like 4E. To each his own. But to claim that 4E is not "as much" rpging as other games is ludicrous at best. It smacks of claims of badwrongfun. [/QUOTE]
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