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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4549703" data-attributes="member: 40961">Technically, you're wrong.&nbsp; In 3e a character engaged in bed rest with a non magical doctor regained 4 hit points per level per day.&nbsp; That means that a barbarian who rolled straight 12s on his hit dice and who has an 18 in constitution is going to regain all his hit points from zero in four days flat.&nbsp; That's the example calculated to take the absolute maximum time I could make it take.&nbsp; A wizard is probably going to need only one day of bed rest to heal from zero.&nbsp;I mean, yeah, &quot;heal over night&quot; is faster than &quot;heal over the course of a full day or maybe two,&quot; but if your goal is realistic fantasy, you're splitting hairs at this point.&nbsp;I always think its fun to bring this up in conversations about 4e healing, because inevitably there's this weird pause where everyone checks the rules and discovers that I'm right, but they didn't know because they never actually used non magical healing for long term care.&nbsp; They had a cleric who just magicked them back together every evening.&nbsp;As for definitions of &quot;low fantasy,&quot; I think you need a new phrase.&nbsp; Because, no matter how much you try to rationalize your definition of &quot;low fantasy,&quot; if you define &quot;low fantasy&quot; to mean &quot;fantasy where the constant, ongoing effects of magic use continuously negate normal physical laws,&quot; then you have just defined &quot;low fantasy&quot; to mean &quot;high fantasy.&quot;&nbsp; And that's probably not good for the english language or for our brains.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4549703, member: 40961"] Technically, you're wrong. In 3e a character engaged in bed rest with a non magical doctor regained 4 hit points per level per day. That means that a barbarian who rolled straight 12s on his hit dice and who has an 18 in constitution is going to regain all his hit points from zero in four days flat. That's the example calculated to take the absolute maximum time I could make it take. A wizard is probably going to need only one day of bed rest to heal from zero. I mean, yeah, "heal over night" is faster than "heal over the course of a full day or maybe two," but if your goal is realistic fantasy, you're splitting hairs at this point. I always think its fun to bring this up in conversations about 4e healing, because inevitably there's this weird pause where everyone checks the rules and discovers that I'm right, but they didn't know because they never actually used non magical healing for long term care. They had a cleric who just magicked them back together every evening. As for definitions of "low fantasy," I think you need a new phrase. Because, no matter how much you try to rationalize your definition of "low fantasy," if you define "low fantasy" to mean "fantasy where the constant, ongoing effects of magic use continuously negate normal physical laws," then you have just defined "low fantasy" to mean "high fantasy." And that's probably not good for the english language or for our brains. [/QUOTE]

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