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<blockquote data-quote="UngainlyTitan" data-source="post: 4567515" data-attributes="member: 28487">Interesting idea, personally not keen on it but interesting idea. Speaking for my self I am quite happy to view hit point as plot protection. Many years ago I decided that as a plysical wounds modeling system D&amp;D (in all variation) was ludricous and went in search of better sytems, Rolemaster, GURPS and so forth. In the end of the day I decided if I was grim an gritty I'll use Warhammer and for more magical campaign I'll go back to D&amp;D. But nobody get seriously hurt unless it is fatal. So no PC ends up as a blind beggar in the village green or dies screaming in the woods as gangerene eats his guts. I want Conan the movie or LoTHR the movie with a bit more magic not the grim reality of medieval warfare. To a certain extent why do people want realistic wounding? Not sure I understand the sandbox play argument. A week down time (with out magical healing)&nbsp; is&nbsp; sprained ligaments territory. Deep life threatening iwounds 2 to 6 months on the flat of your back and you survive because they cut off the rest of the limb. So your character is out for another year to retrain the cope with the missing appendage, if it is an arm or an eye. And given the ubiquity of magical healing, from potions,pc characters and or wands, natural healing is almost&nbsp; never invoked so what exactly is all the fuss about anyway?Combat narration, I do see the argument there, but don't understand as to why a healing surges used as are not taken into account. Comparing 3e to 4e directly is not a proper comparison a 1st level fighter in 3e (absent magical healing) has Xhp but his 4e counter part has x*healingSurgeValue hit points.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UngainlyTitan, post: 4567515, member: 28487"] Interesting idea, personally not keen on it but interesting idea. Speaking for my self I am quite happy to view hit point as plot protection. Many years ago I decided that as a plysical wounds modeling system D&D (in all variation) was ludricous and went in search of better sytems, Rolemaster, GURPS and so forth. In the end of the day I decided if I was grim an gritty I'll use Warhammer and for more magical campaign I'll go back to D&D. But nobody get seriously hurt unless it is fatal. So no PC ends up as a blind beggar in the village green or dies screaming in the woods as gangerene eats his guts. I want Conan the movie or LoTHR the movie with a bit more magic not the grim reality of medieval warfare. To a certain extent why do people want realistic wounding? Not sure I understand the sandbox play argument. A week down time (with out magical healing) is sprained ligaments territory. Deep life threatening iwounds 2 to 6 months on the flat of your back and you survive because they cut off the rest of the limb. So your character is out for another year to retrain the cope with the missing appendage, if it is an arm or an eye. And given the ubiquity of magical healing, from potions,pc characters and or wands, natural healing is almost never invoked so what exactly is all the fuss about anyway? Combat narration, I do see the argument there, but don't understand as to why a healing surges used as are not taken into account. Comparing 3e to 4e directly is not a proper comparison a 1st level fighter in 3e (absent magical healing) has Xhp but his 4e counter part has x*healingSurgeValue hit points. [/QUOTE]

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