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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 600379" data-attributes="member: 8704">Yes and the whole first part of this thread went into how broken the ratings system was. By popularity I was talking about the huge Save Farscape movement that has erupted, I was talking about a show that has conventions and a huge following and is looking into branching out into movies and cartoons (they started looking at those possibilities a year or two ago before it got cancelled). If Stargate got cancelled would there be this kind of movement? Would people fight for the privlidge of watching John Edwards? Farscape went from the number one ranked show on Sci Fi ever to a ratings looser in under a year, in the same time all the other things that happened to the show went on (the time changes the fact that it just dissapears without warning and then reappears in a new timeslot without warning, it wasn't even on during sweeps, etc................) To say that serialization killed the show in under a year, well come on the show was on the cover TV guide and was renewed for two more seasons and then out of the blue it tanked in the ratings because it was too hard to follow, all in a six month period. There are alot of reasons the show tanked in the ratings and a lot of these were not the fault of the show, you had to use a freaking crystal ball to figure out if the show was going to be on or not, it just disappeared and reappeared, if you missed a week of the show then you may never get the chance to see it again, they didn't do reruns, they didn't show the shows on other nights or show the reruns again, they showed twice in one night then dissapeared. I've seen the same episode of Stargate 5 times since Farscape went off, and I don't even watch the show, I'm just flipping channels and there it is, the same freaking episode.  Lets face it the show cost too much money so SCI FI tanked it, it happens, they could not continue the show so they tanked it, yes the show was getting harder to follow but not that hard. The man has sold 9 best sellers and is well on his way to a tenth one, all of the books are serial they tell one story. The problem with Jordan isn't that the books are too serialized if they weren't they would be stupid, he is telling a single story. Jordan's readers are dissatisfied by the quality of his books, they just are not as good as they used to and the story doesn't seem to move along that much anymore. The fact that he is telling a story instead of a group of unrelated tales has nothing to do with that. How can you say that Jordan's books have become more serialized, he is telling a story, he has a lways been telling a single story with lots of characters. It's not like the last five books were unrelated to the first five, they are the same exact story with the same exact characters, of course it's serialized. If Jordan was writting books of the same quality as the first books not as many people would be complaining, and lets not forget he is still selling these books by the millions.On to the Sci Fi channel: I looked through the list and it didn't impress me all that much, I mean yea maybe they do show a good show here and there but they show Twilight zone  20 something times in a week, or maybe they are trying to drag me in by showing both Aligator 1 and Aligator 2? This is a fairly low budget channel that is trying to get by on B movies and old reruns, they mix in some new shows to try to keep it fresh but lets face it they just are not trying as hard as they used to. The neat reruns of my youth are getting old. I don't want to watch The Running Man again, and their big draw show is Crossing Over with John Edwards? I'm suprised they haven't tried to pick up Andromeda reruns or Conan the series or any of the other Hercules and Zena wannabe shows that sprung up (and some of those shows I watch and think are fun but they are cheap, they have to be in order to get made and sold). I tried to watch the Taken miniseries but it was just painful to watch. The new Dream Team show scares me it looks so bad. I can't help it I have seen all the Space Above and Beyond reruns I can stomach and I never liked Dark Shadows (a serialized show, go figure). I want them to do good I am rooting for them but they keep shooting themselves in the foot.The only thing I will say about Stargate SG1 is that it reminds me of the shows that were put out after Hercules and Zena went off, some of them I admit to watching. I didn't care for the concept of the movie and a series based on it didn't get me going. I have given it several tries. As far as it looking cheap all TV sci fi tends to have that problem, I just prefer the costumes and sets of Farscape and I love the aliens in Farscape, they are more than a guy with a symbol lumped in his forehead. That is 100% a matter of preference and personal opinon and has no basis on fact, although you can find out how much it takes to make a episode of each. I'm sure that alot of people like Stargate SG1 but I doubt it generates the rabid fanbase that Farscape does. Next topic: What did you expect the Sci Fi executive to say, she had to make a statement to try and smooth over all these rabid fans which are the base audience that the channel is shooting for, she couldn't say sorry your favorite show cost too much money so we are dumping it for shows that cost little or no money to make, but enjoy "The Dreamteam with Annabelle and Michael" anyway. There is a reason they have kept their mouths closed for all these months, they are hoping this will all die down, I doubt they expected all that happened when Farscape was cancelled.</blockquote>

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