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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 4175600" data-attributes="member: 32740">Red Dwarf also wasn't working well until Season 3 when Llewellyn joined the cast and the character of Kryten filled a serious void in the dynamic.  Without that I doubt it would have been watchable beyond a third season.I think the reason Quark and Homeboys were unsuccessful had nothing to do with their being camp or sci-fi.  I think it had to do with Homeboys just not being any good, and Quark... well either it wasn't any good either (I can barely remember even seeing it at all much less remember the quality of the show) or it just wasn't the right time/place to succeed.  Buck Henry is not a slouch but it WAS the '70's after all...A couple of things I always say:First is that it's the writing, for both TV and films.  It doesn't matter if you have a great cast and top production values - if it's poorly written it will die.Second is that just because it's actually GOOD doesn't mean it will succeed.  Great writing alone has NEVER been a guarantee of success or wide appeal.  It can be killed by poor casting, poor scheduling of the show/mistimed release, or poor production values.  A show can overcome or just simply rise above poor production - it CANNOT overcome and rise above bad writing.  Special effects have never, EVER saved a show or made a movie a success.  But even great shows that have it all going for them can fail to find the wider audience and get yanked.  Firefly would be an example for me.  I never even heard about it until it was gone.  Best I can determine is that at the time it was on I didn't have access to - or just had no other reason to watch - UPN (which was, I believe, the original network on which it aired).Of the shows listed in the OP's link I don't know that I'd have an interest in Fringe, but the others... well, it always depends on the final product don't it?</blockquote>

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