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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 4673791" data-attributes="member: 6533"><p>Well, but it's also worth pointing out that Gallileo's troubles occured long after the high middle ages and that there had been profound changes in the political, intellectual, and religious communities that made his persecution a reality.</p><p></p><p>At the least the high medieval church is going to be in a far stronger position politically and less inclined to these sorts of tactics.</p><p></p><p>Not to say that the church wasn't going to turn to remedy by force, but think about it this way:</p><p></p><p> - In the Renaissance Gallileo needed protection from the various factions within the church.</p><p></p><p> - In the high middle ages you have Bernard of Clairvaux arguing against crusades against the Albigensians.</p><p></p><p>The scope of clerical concern during the high medieval period is simply very different from the political troubles that affected the Renaissance.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, you're probably at more risk studying the humanities during the high medieval period than you are working in the sciences.</p><p></p><p>It's your game and you're free to evoke whatever feeling you want, but the church of the high middle ages is probably going to be more interested in sponsoring science as a means to desire social change than it is in controlling science as a potentially undesired source of social change.</p><p></p><p>Recall that during this period it isn't simply the case of an enlightened few among the church sponsoring technical progress but whole monastaries and monastic regimes engaging in the sort of technical experimentation that would result in the late medieval industrial revolution.</p><p></p><p>From a fantasy perspective this is going to be the period of the clockwork church and the debating priest than the banned books and secret humanists.</p><p></p><p>Even the inquisition is going to be more in the spirit of Holmes than Torquemada.</p><p></p><p>The persecution of the Templars actually ran into trouble when it attempted to include the inquisition rather than keeping it purely a question of state apparatuses and pressure on the Vatican.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Some of this could be done outside of the laboratory with a good kit, but I think this is an excellent start.</p><p></p><p>Have you seen Green Ronin's Medieval Player's Guide? It has a profoundly good approach to this period - even if it is for the last edition - and I find myself wondering if you couldn't adapt its 'Book Feats' system for scholastic debate to your work in Alchemy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Strangemonkey, post: 4673791, member: 6533"] Well, but it's also worth pointing out that Gallileo's troubles occured long after the high middle ages and that there had been profound changes in the political, intellectual, and religious communities that made his persecution a reality. At the least the high medieval church is going to be in a far stronger position politically and less inclined to these sorts of tactics. Not to say that the church wasn't going to turn to remedy by force, but think about it this way: - In the Renaissance Gallileo needed protection from the various factions within the church. - In the high middle ages you have Bernard of Clairvaux arguing against crusades against the Albigensians. The scope of clerical concern during the high medieval period is simply very different from the political troubles that affected the Renaissance. Honestly, you're probably at more risk studying the humanities during the high medieval period than you are working in the sciences. It's your game and you're free to evoke whatever feeling you want, but the church of the high middle ages is probably going to be more interested in sponsoring science as a means to desire social change than it is in controlling science as a potentially undesired source of social change. Recall that during this period it isn't simply the case of an enlightened few among the church sponsoring technical progress but whole monastaries and monastic regimes engaging in the sort of technical experimentation that would result in the late medieval industrial revolution. From a fantasy perspective this is going to be the period of the clockwork church and the debating priest than the banned books and secret humanists. Even the inquisition is going to be more in the spirit of Holmes than Torquemada. The persecution of the Templars actually ran into trouble when it attempted to include the inquisition rather than keeping it purely a question of state apparatuses and pressure on the Vatican. Some of this could be done outside of the laboratory with a good kit, but I think this is an excellent start. Have you seen Green Ronin's Medieval Player's Guide? It has a profoundly good approach to this period - even if it is for the last edition - and I find myself wondering if you couldn't adapt its 'Book Feats' system for scholastic debate to your work in Alchemy. [/QUOTE]
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