Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Science question for the brainy among us
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Bastoche" data-source="post: 1069779" data-attributes="member: 306"><p>Using magic to compress the water imply that the question doesn't make <em>any</em> sense whatsoever. It's an illposed problem. </p><p></p><p>Since it's physically impossible to confine water in such a small space, the resulting phenomenon is not a thing a science but purely a science-fiction thing.</p><p></p><p>It couldn't be verify by any physical means, therefore the answer to the question wouldn't anything but pure scienceless speculation.</p><p></p><p>Now if you'd use a pressurable cavity and try to compress the water, at a high enough pressure, you would reach a critical point (water to gas is a first order transition) and you could NOT differentiate water from gas, because if you raise the temperature, the gas state would be so conpressed, it's density would be the same as the water's.</p><p></p><p>If a clever player wants to use theses tactics, hinder roleplaying XP penalities for using modern notions of physics and make out whatever effects better suits you imagination.</p><p></p><p>The energy might be of the order of the pressure times the volume of the sphere. And the pressure would be incommensurate, in the sense of uncomputable (in other words unphysical)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This doesn't make any sense. Heisenberg boys, Heisenberg...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This makes even less sense. If the water (or any other material) is confined in too small a space, quantum fluctuations will make anything melt. It's an entropy/energy dissipation thing à la Pomeranchuck effect.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This doesn't make any sense at all. Electrons and neutrons are two different species of "creatures" made from the same subparticles. Neutron stars are made of <em>neutron</em> not electrons with a broken shell (?!?!).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Doesn't work, since you would cross the crossover point (critical point) after which gas isn't comrepssible anymore. Plasma is ion (electrons or ionized atoms, it has NOTHING to do with highly compressed gas).</p><p></p><p>Mixing magic with very very bad scientific "knowledge" only makes very very very bad science ficition. </p><p></p><p>Sorry for the rant, but the physicist in me just hate to see that kind of "brainy" discussion <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Go magic or go science but don't mix them together!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bastoche, post: 1069779, member: 306"] Using magic to compress the water imply that the question doesn't make [i]any[/i] sense whatsoever. It's an illposed problem. Since it's physically impossible to confine water in such a small space, the resulting phenomenon is not a thing a science but purely a science-fiction thing. It couldn't be verify by any physical means, therefore the answer to the question wouldn't anything but pure scienceless speculation. Now if you'd use a pressurable cavity and try to compress the water, at a high enough pressure, you would reach a critical point (water to gas is a first order transition) and you could NOT differentiate water from gas, because if you raise the temperature, the gas state would be so conpressed, it's density would be the same as the water's. If a clever player wants to use theses tactics, hinder roleplaying XP penalities for using modern notions of physics and make out whatever effects better suits you imagination. The energy might be of the order of the pressure times the volume of the sphere. And the pressure would be incommensurate, in the sense of uncomputable (in other words unphysical) This doesn't make any sense. Heisenberg boys, Heisenberg... This makes even less sense. If the water (or any other material) is confined in too small a space, quantum fluctuations will make anything melt. It's an entropy/energy dissipation thing à la Pomeranchuck effect. This doesn't make any sense at all. Electrons and neutrons are two different species of "creatures" made from the same subparticles. Neutron stars are made of [i]neutron[/i] not electrons with a broken shell (?!?!). Doesn't work, since you would cross the crossover point (critical point) after which gas isn't comrepssible anymore. Plasma is ion (electrons or ionized atoms, it has NOTHING to do with highly compressed gas). Mixing magic with very very bad scientific "knowledge" only makes very very very bad science ficition. Sorry for the rant, but the physicist in me just hate to see that kind of "brainy" discussion ;) Go magic or go science but don't mix them together! [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Science question for the brainy among us
Top