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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 5433036" data-attributes="member: 18182">If I remember the (older) article directly, Paizo was #2 after D&amp;D in RPG sales in hobby stores.&nbsp; This did not include all D&amp;D products, such as board games (which, while a small number of products now, one, seem to be becoming more important to the D&amp;D brand), and more importantly, miniatures (although, those are gone now, sad).&nbsp; It also only referenced hobby store sales, not online sales (Amazon) or big box sales (B&amp;N, Target).Edit: It also didn't take into account the difference in volume between #1 and #2.Paizo is awesomesauce mixed with even more awesomesauce, but they never have been serious competition to WotC.But you're right, with D&amp;D products starting to focus on props - cards of various sorts (Fortune, deck in Shadowfell boxed set, deck of many things, and tokens, perhaps more to come) and with major &quot;crunch&quot; support seemingly moving online . . . . Paizo and other RPG companies will start to play catch-up in the printed RPG book in hobby stores category, but still won't seriously compete with WotC.Doesn't bother me either way.&nbsp; I like 4e and I lurve Pathfinder, and props help my game either way!&nbsp; 5 years from now, I'll still be playing either D&amp;D or Pathfinder, or perhaps even still both!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 5433036, member: 18182"] If I remember the (older) article directly, Paizo was #2 after D&D in RPG sales in hobby stores. This did not include all D&D products, such as board games (which, while a small number of products now, one, seem to be becoming more important to the D&D brand), and more importantly, miniatures (although, those are gone now, sad). It also only referenced hobby store sales, not online sales (Amazon) or big box sales (B&N, Target). [I]Edit: It also didn't take into account the difference in volume between #1 and #2. [/I] Paizo is awesomesauce mixed with even more awesomesauce, but they never have been serious competition to WotC. But you're right, with D&D products starting to focus on props - cards of various sorts (Fortune, deck in Shadowfell boxed set, deck of many things, and tokens, perhaps more to come) and with major "crunch" support seemingly moving online . . . . Paizo and other RPG companies will start to play catch-up in the [I]printed RPG book in hobby stores category[/I], but still won't seriously compete with WotC. Doesn't bother me either way. I like 4e and I lurve Pathfinder, and props help my game either way! 5 years from now, I'll still be playing either D&D or Pathfinder, or perhaps even still both! [/QUOTE]

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