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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 5437404" data-attributes="member: 65637">No.There's never been mixed signals.&nbsp; The product is designed to bring in both a new crowd and to bring in the older players because every product is designed to bring in new people.&nbsp; That's not mixed signals, that's appealing to multiple crowds.And can we not use &quot;online apologists?&quot;&nbsp; It really doesn't further the conversation.Essentials was never to &quot;fix the rules.&quot;&nbsp; Again, the only people that have claimed this are those that don't play 4e and, even more likely, didn't listen to the actual changes in Essentials (of which there are zero).&nbsp; Simply put, Essentials can't be there to fix the rules, as no rules are changed.Here's the big problem WotC faced - regardless of what they put out, it was going to be claimed as 4.5.&nbsp; Period.&nbsp; The day 4e came out, people were claiming that 4.5 would be just around the corner, and by god did we see a lot of threads wondering when it would come.&nbsp; Essentials didn't change any rules at all and is in no way similar to 3.5, but it's &quot;different&quot; enough to, on a very superficial level, make a connection.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ProfessorCirno, post: 5437404, member: 65637"] No. There's never been mixed signals. The product is designed to bring in both a new crowd and to bring in the older players because [I]every[/I] product is designed to bring in new people. That's not mixed signals, that's appealing to multiple crowds. And can we not use "online apologists?" It really doesn't further the conversation. Essentials was [I]never[/I] to "fix the rules." Again, the only people that have claimed this are those that [I]don't play 4e[/I] and, even more likely, didn't listen to the actual changes in Essentials (of which there are [I]zero[/I]). Simply put, Essentials can't be there to fix the rules, as no rules are changed. Here's the big problem WotC faced - [I]regardless of what they put out[/I], it was going to be claimed as 4.5. Period. The [B]day[/B] 4e came out, people were claiming that 4.5 would be just around the corner, and by god did we see a lot of threads wondering when it would come. Essentials didn't change any rules at all and is in no way similar to 3.5, but it's "different" enough to, on a very superficial level, make a connection. [/QUOTE]

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