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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheFindus" data-source="post: 5446120" data-attributes="member: 75791">Your post included a lot of things in a context I had not thought about before. And I mostly agree with you.However, I think that Paizo would have gone with Pathfinder or some OGL-version of the game regardless of a new OGL for 4E. When they announced Pathfinder, they said that they had been working on this since 2007, way before 4E was announced.I think because of the different design ideas in 4E, they assumed there would be a good business opportunity to start out on their own, without having to depend on another company's business decision. The OGL was their chance, and they took it.They assumed - and rightfully so - that a lot of people would not like the new game design.All I can say is that I was ready for a new game. I loved Book of Nine Swords and the fact that all the classes in this book could do something every encounter. I had played high-level campaigns and dreaded the fact that spellcasters had to sift through tons and tons of spells, leaving the non-spellcasters waiting. Most of the arguments for 4E ring true with my experience of 3.x. I know that this is a matter of taste and cannot be argued over. But after 10 years of 3rd edition, the people I know were ready for something new. Some play Warhammer now, most of them 4E.So I think that WotC would have had a good chance of winning a lot more people over to 4E if they reacted differently. I do not think that the time factor made a difference.That is so true. And you put into words what I for the longest time could not wrap my head around. I kept asking myself: why do they neglect the magazines? Why is there no real effort? The 4E AP was suboptimal, lacking the quality of, say, Age of Wyrms. They do not offer enough campaign material for the campaign books they publish. There is almost no story arc for Eberron, Dark Sun for 4E while, in my opinion, there should be something like this in every Dungeon magazine.If they want to take what you call "goodwill" back, they need to up the quality of the magazines. And I have no clue why they outsourced them to begin with.But you are right: this made Paizo very strong. It was the end of WotC as the sole "DnD" company. Now there are two.</blockquote>

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