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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheFindus" data-source="post: 5448448" data-attributes="member: 75791">First let me say that I am enjoying this conversation very much. I understand your point. But I think there is one aspect that you might be overlooking. Now this is with hindsight, but lets just say Paizo would have gone with 4E at first. And then, when the deition war storm broke loose, they would have realized that there are a lot of people who just do not like 4E because of the design, which these people think sucks big time.This is a target group that WotC did not reach anymore and taht would have been looking for somebody to pick up the 3rd edition stick and march on with it. And I am 100% sure that Paizo would have done that. It is just too big of an opportunity, too many business chances there. And the OGL would have made that possible. As I posted above, in my opinion this could have been avoided with some sort of other legal agreement. Something that gives the right to use the rules to a company but retains the rights to stop that usage with WotC. Combine this with a lower fee than the 5000$ (was that the OGL fee, I do not remember) and I gues WotC would have been good to go. I would say, same effect as the OGL, no loss of IP.  I agree with you completely here.  I do not think they were doing well, because they build up competing products within the company that people could buy. But the fact that they were able to create all these worlds shows that you had a lot of design potential which could have been used to satisfy by far the most DnD players.Maybe we just have different memories, but I remember the 3rd edition times being fun, sure, but also as a time when there were a lot of D20 books that one simply could not use. A complete glut. It was hard to find something that I really wanted to use.</blockquote>

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