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Scribe Scroll: Paper Versus Projection?
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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5888768" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>You can project a <em>Silent Image</em> of anything you can imagine, so yes, you could create such an image of a spell book, complete with any spells you currently have memorized. The other spells in your real book? You don't currently know them.</p><p></p><p>You could do the same for a Scroll. Whether it would act as a Spell Completion item is another matter. If I'm the DM, it's just another version of a page from a spell book, and not a magic item at all.</p><p></p><p>Now let's say that you sit down with a real spell book and your DM lets you create, via <em>Silent Image</em>, an exact copy of that book, or even a compiled copy of several books, I see neither a way nor a reason to make it permanent.</p><p></p><p>The <em>Silent Image</em> lasts as long as you concentrate on it. That means that you can't cast any other spells while the image exists. Such as <em>Permanency.</em></p><p></p><p>Presuming you found a way around that problem, the next one comes from the nature of <em>Silent Image</em> itself: It has an "Area". The book or scroll cannot leave the area it was originally cast in. Such illusions can move around in that area, but they can't leave it.</p><p></p><p>All of this presumes that said book will react to a touch when someone tries to pick it up and/or turn the pages. If the caster is concentrating one it (i.e. maintaining it normally), they can make it move as they choose, but once the caster ceases concentration, the illusion ceases moving, and it never responds on its own to an outside force. When you make it <em>Permanent</em>, it's now being maintained by that <em>Permanency</em> effect, not by the caster. There's nothing in that spell's description that even suggests that you could resume control.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps you're thinking of <em>Permanent Image</em>? Same problems regarding moving it out of the original area it was cast in, of course, but some of the problems go away.</p><p></p><p>Finally, of course, this is all based on the premise that you can be fooled by your own illusion, one that you *know* is an illusion because you created it.</p><p></p><p>So my gut reaction to the entire premise is to cast an Empowered, Maximized Dispel BS on it.</p><p></p><p>If you're worried about being able to haul your books around, invest in a Boccob's Blessed Book.</p><p></p><p>If you're trying to find a free way to scribe scrolls, forget it. The answer is, and should always be, "No".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5888768, member: 6669384"] You can project a [I]Silent Image[/I] of anything you can imagine, so yes, you could create such an image of a spell book, complete with any spells you currently have memorized. The other spells in your real book? You don't currently know them. You could do the same for a Scroll. Whether it would act as a Spell Completion item is another matter. If I'm the DM, it's just another version of a page from a spell book, and not a magic item at all. Now let's say that you sit down with a real spell book and your DM lets you create, via [I]Silent Image[/I], an exact copy of that book, or even a compiled copy of several books, I see neither a way nor a reason to make it permanent. The [I]Silent Image[/I] lasts as long as you concentrate on it. That means that you can't cast any other spells while the image exists. Such as [I]Permanency.[/I] Presuming you found a way around that problem, the next one comes from the nature of [I]Silent Image[/I] itself: It has an "Area". The book or scroll cannot leave the area it was originally cast in. Such illusions can move around in that area, but they can't leave it. All of this presumes that said book will react to a touch when someone tries to pick it up and/or turn the pages. If the caster is concentrating one it (i.e. maintaining it normally), they can make it move as they choose, but once the caster ceases concentration, the illusion ceases moving, and it never responds on its own to an outside force. When you make it [I]Permanent[/I], it's now being maintained by that [I]Permanency[/I] effect, not by the caster. There's nothing in that spell's description that even suggests that you could resume control. Perhaps you're thinking of [I]Permanent Image[/I]? Same problems regarding moving it out of the original area it was cast in, of course, but some of the problems go away. Finally, of course, this is all based on the premise that you can be fooled by your own illusion, one that you *know* is an illusion because you created it. So my gut reaction to the entire premise is to cast an Empowered, Maximized Dispel BS on it. If you're worried about being able to haul your books around, invest in a Boccob's Blessed Book. If you're trying to find a free way to scribe scrolls, forget it. The answer is, and should always be, "No". [/QUOTE]
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