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<blockquote data-quote="daemonslye" data-source="post: 448980" data-attributes="member: 6309"><p>Seems to me a "scroll" is defined:</p><p></p><p>DMGp.199: </p><p></p><p>If this is the definition of a scroll, then:</p><p></p><p>PHBp.84:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Seems kinda clear. That said, scribing a spell in a spellbook:</p><p></p><p>PHB.p155:</p><p></p><p>What does this mean? Spellbooks are expensive and take</p><p>lots of time:</p><p></p><p>12th lvl caster - 6th level spell:</p><p></p><p>Scroll: 900gp (6th lvl spell * 12th level caster * 12.5gp) and 1 day</p><p>Spellbook: 1200gp (12 pages) and 7 days</p><p></p><p>Why the comparison? Well, lets look at lower level spells:</p><p></p><p>5th level caster - 3rd level spell (say, haste)</p><p></p><p>Scroll: 187.5gp and 5 spells in a day vs</p><p>Spellbook: 600gp and takes 4 days</p><p></p><p>The scroll scriber can make 3 spells on one scroll in one day for</p><p>the same cost as scribing haste into your book in four</p><p>days.</p><p></p><p>Now - Is this a major problem? At 3rd level a Wizard</p><p>starting gold is 2,700gp (or 80 1st level spells and 40</p><p>2nd level spells - scribed in only 2 days no less; Of course,</p><p>these would be unmanagebly large scrolls). Additionally,</p><p>you would pay the cost in XP.</p><p></p><p>Conclusion: I would say you need to limit the physical</p><p>size of a scroll to a manageable level - say six or fewer</p><p>pages/feet.</p><p></p><p>All of the above said, the SRD has a few discrepancies</p><p>to the DMG:</p><p></p><p>SRD:<a href="http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd/srdmagicitemsscrolls.html:" target="_blank">http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd/srdmagicitemsscrolls.html:</a></p><p></p><p>So, the physical description does not mention multiple</p><p>spells on one scroll. However, check your 3e modules, you</p><p>will find bad guys running around with scrolls of multiple</p><p>spells.</p><p></p><p>So, kind of a long post - but I really wanted to look into this</p><p>topic. I would go with the physical limitation before the</p><p>financial.</p><p></p><p>Of course, I could be wrong. Your DM is the final judge</p><p>after all.</p><p></p><p>~D</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="daemonslye, post: 448980, member: 6309"] Seems to me a "scroll" is defined: DMGp.199: If this is the definition of a scroll, then: PHBp.84: Seems kinda clear. That said, scribing a spell in a spellbook: PHB.p155: What does this mean? Spellbooks are expensive and take lots of time: 12th lvl caster - 6th level spell: Scroll: 900gp (6th lvl spell * 12th level caster * 12.5gp) and 1 day Spellbook: 1200gp (12 pages) and 7 days Why the comparison? Well, lets look at lower level spells: 5th level caster - 3rd level spell (say, haste) Scroll: 187.5gp and 5 spells in a day vs Spellbook: 600gp and takes 4 days The scroll scriber can make 3 spells on one scroll in one day for the same cost as scribing haste into your book in four days. Now - Is this a major problem? At 3rd level a Wizard starting gold is 2,700gp (or 80 1st level spells and 40 2nd level spells - scribed in only 2 days no less; Of course, these would be unmanagebly large scrolls). Additionally, you would pay the cost in XP. Conclusion: I would say you need to limit the physical size of a scroll to a manageable level - say six or fewer pages/feet. All of the above said, the SRD has a few discrepancies to the DMG: SRD:[url]http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd/srdmagicitemsscrolls.html:[/url] So, the physical description does not mention multiple spells on one scroll. However, check your 3e modules, you will find bad guys running around with scrolls of multiple spells. So, kind of a long post - but I really wanted to look into this topic. I would go with the physical limitation before the financial. Of course, I could be wrong. Your DM is the final judge after all. ~D [/QUOTE]
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